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Personanongrata
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| I'm not really that worried about terrorists where I am. |
How nice that must be for you. How easy.
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| Not to mention we have a president that isn't afraid to go after them either. soooooo? |
He's apparently not afraid to go after you, either.
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Thanks for lookin out for me though.  |
It's no big deal. I usually try to keep an eye out for pieces of crap, anyhow, so that I might not soil my shoe.
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Have you checked on the brace holding the sky up lately?  |
I guess you're "not really that worried about" nuclear war in that private fantasy-land of yours, either. |
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TNuke
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Bush will be gone in 7 months....
Move on. |
IMO, that is like saying, "Yes, your mother was raped and murdered, and the guilty persons weren't charged, but hey, move on."
Kind of sets a bad precedent... |
Not quite the same thing, it's like having your mother raped and murdered by a pack of people, and those guilty weren't charged, but spend years only trying to bring one of them to justice.
Bush is a politician, DC is full of scumbag politicians to attack, on both sides of the aisle, and who are to blame for the sorry state of the nation... For crying out loud, Ted Kennedy has been in the U.S. Senate 46 years, a year longer than JFK has been dead...
Between him, Robert Byrd, and up until 2003, Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms, you have 4 members of the Senate none of whom served or continue to serve in the Senate for fewer than 30 god damn years each, with Byrd having been a memeber going on 50 years next year... BYRD HAS BEEN IN OFFICE 5 MONTHS LONGER THAN FIDEL CASTRO!!!!!!!!!!
Put it in perspective, this country didn't get f'ed up in one night on January 21st 2001, this has been decades in the making, perpetrated by people in both the legislative branch and executive branch, regardless of party affiliation... Sorry, but to sit here on this forum for 4 years doing nothing but bitching about 1 person in the government, seemingly blaming them for everything short of the bubonic plague, is asinine. It's not one person, and it's even more asinine to blame that person when that person is about to leave office, and all the others are gonna still be sticking around unless they die in office. You can try to claim Bush stole the elections, but if you're gonna do that, have fricken brains and balls to call it like it is and blame each and every politician who has supported getting rid of the paper trail in the first place.
Who has more power and influence, the politician who will be in office for a maximum of 8 years, or the politician who has been in office for nearly 50? It's not Bush that approved the Patriot Act, it's not Bush that approved going into Iraq, hell, Bush isn't even the one who can authorize a hike in pay.
This country has been totally bought by corporations, Congress is so far into the pockets of corporate America that they might as well start dressing like NASCAR drivers with all the corporate logos.
But hey, if you wanna continue on crying about ONE GUY for the last 4 years, even when he's leaving office, and a ton of the others are still in office, then be my guest. |
Wow! Ditto.
The problem is that the US Government is completely out of control and that is what should be making Americans sit up and take notice. Right, this country did not get F-ed up in the last 7 years, its been getting F-ed up for half a century. And Bush isn't the one who F-ed it up. Plus he had to deal with the DC environment that pre-existed him and his father by decades. Not enough people blaming the right villain here. People always blame the President first because they perceive him as one person and one person is easier to blame than 500.
Just the other day Nancy Pelosi stated that "there will be no offshore drilling for oil in the US". Excuse me but who the hell died and made her F-ing queen?? Talk about abuse of power.
Its gonna come to violence, you watch. Tick tick tick. |
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ralf1986
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"Speak for yourself. I think He has done a good job as President .He came at a time when we needed it.He has held the terrorists accountable."
Everyone know: The attack was staged by america. LOL. |
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The 11th September was staged, the Pentagon attack was staged, ans so on.
And how can burgle a house, that not attackt by the airplane? i mean the 3th house of the 11th September...
The house was disrupt. |
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| Everyone know: The attack was staged by america. LOL |
yup still waiting for the proof you all claim to have ?
dumb commies.
BloodStone... |
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@Bloodstone
"yup still waiting for the proof you all claim to have ?
dumb commies."
Oh, the Americans...I´am an American...I´m the best...i like Guantanamo, I like to pollute the environment, I like to kill innocent iraqs...
**ck you, Homie...The Revolution will come...also america cannot abstract them. |
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ralf1986
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muahahhaaaaaaaaa..............im America, F....U.......c.....k is censored, even in the Internet....muahhaaaaaaaa
im Germany unimaginable. |
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TNuke
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Oh, the Americans...I´am an American...I´m the best...i like Guantanamo, I like to pollute the environment, I like to kill innocent iraqs...
**ck you, Homie...The Revolution will come...also america cannot abstract them. |
I know I try to pollute the environment as much as I can because I plan to live on mars. That's called sarcasm in case you are unfamiliar.
"Kill innocent iraqs" ?? Hey wasn't that you guys killing those innocent afghans back in the 80's? Oh and lets not forget those Chechnyans or the 10-50 million people Stalin and company knocked off.
We all know its you Ruskies who are the nice guys. Papers please!
BTW, I do like Guantanamo. Nice beaches, warm weather, friendly natives. Well, except for Castro. |
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""Kill innocent iraqs" ?? Hey wasn't that you guys killing those innocent afghans back in the 80's? Oh and lets not forget those Chechnyans or the 10-50 million people Stalin and company knocked off."
Thats only american and West-Germany propaganda. No evidence, Non deathly, only Gulag. Thats right, felons to pertain to gulag.
Gulag was a work-prison. |
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| only for you......www.Stalinwerke.de |
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"Well, except for Castro2
Castro have more attains than all american presidents together...Revolution!!!! |
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3. The main reason is not supply and demand. It's US manipulating the oil price by oil reserve and future contract.
(1) Quote, "The former Fed chief also detailed how investors, rather than users of oil, have come to set the price of oil through purchasing futures contracts." Though Greespan use "investors" instead of "speculators".
(2) From supply side:
08-03-05. OPEC to maintain current production; blames US for economic ’mismanagement’
Published: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 | 3:03 PM ET
Canadian Press: William Kole, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
OPEC President Chakib Khelil told reporters the global market is being affected by what he called "the mismanagement of the U.S. economy," and that America's problems were a key factor in the cartel's decision to hold off on any action.
"If the prices are high, definitely they are not due to a lack of crude. They are due to what's happening in the U.S.," Khelil said. "There is sufficient supply. There's plenty of oil there."
Though Khelil uses "US economy" instead of "speculators".
(3) From demand side:
Quote, "Shell CEO says record oil not due to shortage
Thu May 22, 2008 5:24pm BST
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKL2232289720080522
(4) What US Senate Committee found:
Quote, "The real reason why oil prices are rising
June 02, 2008
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The finding of US Senate Committee in 2006
In June 2006, when the oil price in the futures markets was about $60 a barrel, a Senate Committee in the US probed the role of market speculation in oil and gas prices. The report points out that large purchase of crude oil futures contracts by speculators has, in effect, created additional demand for oil and in the process driven up the future prices of oil.......
The report further estimated that speculative purchases of oil futures had added as much as $20-25 per barrel to the then prevailing price of $60 per barrel. In today's prices of approximately $130 per barrel, this means that approximately $100 per barrel could be attributed to speculation!...
*What is interesting to note is that the US strategic oil reserves were at approximately 350 million barrels for a decade till 2006. However, for the past year and a half these reserves have doubled to more than 700 million barrels. Naturally, this build-up of strategic oil reserves by the US (of 350 million barrels) is adding enormous pressure on the oil demand and consequently its prices.
http://www.rediff.com/money/2008/jun/02mrv.htm |
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TNuke
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"Well, except for Castro2
Castro have more attains than all american presidents together...Revolution!!!! |
Not sure what you mean but the only reason Castro was left in place all this time is that it was part of the negotiation that ended the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, you know, that b.s you guys pulled that almost destroyed the world? |
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| only for you......www.Stalinwerke.de |
Now that's what I call propaganda! Good job! And I didn't even have to translate it into English. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: 4. Oil price goes up when Iran abandon Dollar as its oil tra |
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4. Oil price goes up when Iran abandon Dollar as its oil trade currency. Time table:
(1) (Intention period)
In the end of 2006 and early 2007, the oil price was about $60/barrel. When Iran expressed its intention to use the euro for foreign transactions.
It was about $70/barrel in early July/07. In six months, it rose 10 dollars per barrel.
06-12-18. Iran scraps Dollar, takes on Euro
Mon. 18 Dec 2006
Iran Focus
Tehran, Iran, Dec. 18 - Iran's central bank will begin to use the euro for foreign transactions, replacing the long-established dollar system, government spokesman Gholam-Hossein Elham told reporters during his weekly press conference on Monday.
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=9533
(2) Practising period.
From early July 2007 to the end of January 2008, in seven months, oil price rose from $60/barrel to $95/barrel. In this period, Iran completed its oil trading from dollar to foreign currency.
Quote, " Iran wants yen
July 13/2007 (Bloomberg) -- Iran asked Japanese refiners to switch to the yen to pay for all crude oil purchases, after Iran's central bank said it is reducing holdings of the U.S. dollar."
(3) Expand to future deal.
Early February 2008 to 7/4/2008, oil price was pushed up from $95 to $147 a barrel. That's a $50 dollars inflation in five months. Why I start this period from Februry 2008? Because Iran's Bourse innaugurated on Feb.17. When the oil customers of Iran have to buy the future contract by reserving more foreign currency in the bank, US has to push up the price, let other OPEC customers absorb the Petro-dollars dumped by Iran customers.
Quote, "Iran Oil Bourse to deal blow to dollar
Fri, 04 Jan 2008
The long-awaited Iranian Oil Bourse, a place for trading oil, petrochemicals and gas in various non-dollar currencies, will soon open.
Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari told reporters the bourse will be inaugurated during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution (February 1-11) at the latest.
Some expert opinions hold inauguration of the bourse cold significantly devalue the greenback.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=37468§ionid=351020103
08-03-01. Iran shifts oil sales away from dollar
Sat, 01 Mar 2008
Deputy head of the National Iranian Oil Company for international affairs says Iran has completely dropped dollar in its oil sales.
In an interview with The Financial Times, Hojjatollah Ghanimifard said that over the past three months, Iran has received 75 percent of the proceeds from its oil sales in euros and the remaining 25 percent in the Japanese currency, yen.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=45397§ionid=351020102 |
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