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But about that poltergiest activity...I have dealt with several poltergiests in my lifetime. The home I live in now is peaceful, but I have lived in some really disturbed places. The first one I remember was the worst. I was in kindergarten when my family moved in, and was in 6th grade when we moved out. To tell you all the things that happened there would fill pages, but there were several mean and angry spirits, and as a kid I did not know how to deal with them. Very scary stuff I know. I read a lot about poltergiests and related things mainly because I know they really happen. A couple of things that may help are, burning sage, and using white candles. I hope the activity settles down for you and peace fills your home.
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Awww, I don't want to drive them away 
It's like having a cat.
At one point, I did start trapping them in glasses and throwing them on the fire, but that was because someone had been slashed so deeply it required stitches, and couldn't remember how it happened.
Generaly I don't regard poltergiests as spirits, that's a bit like calling a torrnado inteligent. They seem more like a side effect to a high rate / concentration of erm, stuff that brings about change. Like turbulence in the hidden / internal side of causality. |
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Hi,
Thanks to both of you, Deathcultreject and Nesaie. Your story was not too long, Nesaie. And I agree I should not be fearful. I am more curious than anything, like...wtf??? When he gave me that butterfly, I said "Thanks, you din't need to get me anything" and he told me when he seen it he knew he had to get it for me. "It just fits you" {Weird} I could not help but stare at him hard, so hard he finally looked away with a look of shame or embarassment on his face. I'm not sure which. I was too shocked to think of anything to say, except thanks, lol. My mind was racing, let me tell you.
Deathculreject, I agree with you. This is my home and he had better watch his step! I don't let anyone mess with me, it's just this behavior coming from this guy is so unexpected and I don't recall him ever using common known triggers for MKULTRA victims on me before. Its weird. Very unsettleing. I did actually have a little aggression in my hard stare, Lol, I figured I won because he looked away.
I don't know why, but it scares me a little to come right out and ask him about the yellow brick road... but I might just have to do it. I think the next time, if there is a next time, I will do it. I would rather ask him and know the anwser, that would clear things up one way or the other! { I hope its all just coincidence}
I feel better getting some advice. I think I feel more prepared. Maybe nothing else will happen, but if it does I will deal with it with some humor but stay on my guard.
Lol, Deathcultreject, poltergiests like pet cats! I do like your explanation of them. As I got older, I realized that most poltergiest activity is caused by living people. I like how you put it, as a turbulence in the hidden side of causality. Makes sense.
I wonder now if I scared myself as a kid.I was raised very strictly,{ Be seen but not heard, with regular beatings by my father, most the time with his belt, but sometimes he would kick me across the room or punch me hard in the stomach} So I had a lot of pent up energy and emotion as a kid.I figured all kids got beat the same way back then. So I might have been the cause of a lot of the poltergiest activity that took place. If your not allowed to express yourself it will come out some other way.
Thankfully all the drinking and partying I did in my 20's got a lot of it out, painfully at times, Lol.
Take care and have a good night, and thanks agian.
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Item7, there is a theory that poltergeists come from individual people. A type of psychic energy that they project onto their surroundings. Some people seem to get "followed" by poltergeists.
Is it possible that this guy knows you talk here? That question hit me when I first heard your story. These sites attract people who have been messed with (as you can see) along with people who haven't and are just curious and open minded. If he knew you talked here, he might be checking to see which type you are.
Don't be afraid of asking about the yellow brick road, especially if it seems out of context of the conversation. You're more likely to see him squirm and get embarrased than anything else. Kinda like when you stared at him when he gave you the butterfly. BTW, you did win.  |
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Hi,
Well I haven't heard from that guy so I haven't had a chance to ask him anything. As far as I know he dosen't own a computer, so unless he is borrowing someones he could not know I am here. Maybe he decided to back off since his last visit. Even so, I think I might just ask him something the next time I see him, if I can work it into the conversation.
I wonder what makes people harass innocent victims, like the people here, I think its terrible. What possible fun could there be in hurting someone.
I've read that about poltergiests too. I know one lady who has been plagued for years by them, and when she gets emotionally upset they seem to be more active. She is very mystical minded {loves all the spooky stuff, like ghosts} so she thinks their cool.
I've been a little down for the last few days and haven't posted, because one of my cats got sick and I had to let her go. I cryed a lot, I know that sounds silly. My animals are like my kids almost, lol. She had a long happy life though.
Anyway, hope all is well with everyone. Take care,
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I cry every time I lose a cat too. I had to put one down a couple of years back. I wanted to let her die at home, but she was in pain. So...well, you know.
The thing is, I think animals deal with death better than we do. They're ready to go when its their time. We miss them. But, we're lucky they allowed us to live in their house. We're lucky they chose to spend time with us. We're lucky for the experience. Each one is always unique and special. I remember all the cats I've lived with since I was a kid and their unique personalities.  Just think, some people don't get the opportunity to experience that. |
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Hi,
I totally agree Nesaie. Thanks for your kind words,
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:50 am Post subject: The Return of the Zombie |
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Hi, all--sorry for the long silence. It was due to 2 things: first, my email notifications of new posts ceased yet again and, second, I've spent the summer on some very nasty drugs prescribed by well-intentioned HMO doctors that have had the side effect of turning me into the Living Dead, both mentally and physically speaking  I've mostly lost the past couple of months 
As I try to catch up, I may meander all over the place (still drugged, to some extent), so just bear with me. Should be weaned off the latest pharmaceutical soon.
Item 7, your posts first, since like dcr I immediately connected this guy's weird comments/behavior with the fact that you're posting here in this thread. Your refusal to flip into paranoia is praise-worthy, but frankly I suspect that in this case it may be justified. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's making "Yellow Brick Road" remarks and handing you Monarch butterflies lately, IMHO.
As a very perceptive friend of mine says, the reason she eventually came to believe that I really am tangled up with some sort of MC program is *too damn many coincidences*...some of which she's witnessed. New Agers tend to dismiss this as synchronicity/attracting stuff, but to me that smacks of denial. Some "coincidences" are simply too far over-the-top to be anything but evidence of an actual conspiracy operating behind the scenes.
The fact that this guy is toying with you so openly makes me lean toward the possibility that he's no pro. But he may be loosely connected with either pros or wannabes who are well aware of your posts here and your growing knowledge of MC methodology.
And he may be a wannabe predator himself who's avid to know whether he can trigger you into submissiveness. Which concerns me--we've had that disgusting sub-species of bully posting here at this board, trying to play ugly manipulative little games with trauma survivors. Usually, they're malignant narcissists or sociopaths who are devoid of true empathy, but who've learned how to imitate it and blend in with normal humans.
In any event, this guy is behaving like a predator, so whatever his motivation, I think that refusing to behave like prey is your best bet. I know how difficult it is for me to confront that kind of creep, but if you can manage to call him on his remarks, you'll probably ruin his fun and put him in his place.
 Rely on your own intuition here--do NOT be mollified by anyone else's approval of him. You have no way of knowing how perceptive they are when it comes to creeps like the kind that hang about the MC part of the Fringe.
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Welcome back LilyPat!
I was wondering about you...worried....
As far as that drug thing...don't even get me started!
If man makes it, DON'T TAKE IT!!!!
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Hi,
Its good to see you back Lilypat! I'm sorry to hear you've been though such a terrible time the last couple of months. Its good to hear you are feeling better. I was on some antidepressents once that made me feel really out of it too, so I can understand. {Damn doctors}
Thanks for responding to my posts. I agree with you, whatever his motive, I don't think its good. I haven't seen him for a few days now {since the butterfly thing} So I am waiting to see what he does when he comes over agian.
I was totally freaked out by his behavior! And I still want to know why all the references to MKUltra stuff, and what I thought were attempts to try and trigger me. So I have to find out for my own peace of mind. I'm going to have to confront him, in a light way like Deathcul suggested.
But you made me more aware of the possible danger. Even though I've known this guy for years, I think to myself, "How well do I really know him?" I don't know what he does when he's not around me. Its creepy when I let myself think about it, so I try to keep a calm rational mindset about it, Lol
I actually thought the first couple of times, I was just picking up on these things because I have been reading about them a lot. But then it kept happening and I thought...now wait a minute, this can't be all coincidence, can it? It just got too much, so I had to post here about it, and I'm glad I did. I was worried to post about it at first, but I overcame my fear of not being believed. { I don't know what made me feel noone would believe me} And I was taken seriously and helped. I really appreciate it.
But its not over until I actually find out if he is involved in anything connected to mind control and confront him on it. I'm sure your right, that if he is he's just a wannabe, and may be just trying out some things he read about.
Take care, and have a good night.
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LilyPat . . .
. . . you're still alive . . .
. . . this calls for a celebration |
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LilyPat,
you went completely off the radar.
here's to You from a 'rough diamond'
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3N_rNz2oAGA
As for MC survival business,
I'm working towards complete integration, a psychological state where I can enjoy the 'gifts' which occur with MPD whilst overcoming all the confusion and amnesia.
And where I can wear identities like clothes.
My own personal Sylar internaly.
The mood swings are horrific, and it's not just mood. |
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Alters (alternate personalities) aren't people.
Alters are flashbacks to false confessions under torture.
False confessions of nature of self.
That's what I find.
What are the words for the tortures they use to do this?
What are the words for the emotions and feelings the tortures cause?
If they ever became words in common language, then humans could understand ourselves to the cores of our beings.
or closer to the cores untill next time.
I'm too scared to go back into the black hole for a while,
it's not that I'm scared, it's more that I can't even see it. I can see the gap around it where it's temporarily impossible to look.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vyqgjCKm9nQ
I will remember writing this. |
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Sober now.
The good news is . . .
I have evidence that someone who 'left' the Catholic priesthood (although he never willingly gives up on a power trip) has used a neurolinguistic formular to induce menatl illness and identity confusion.
The target was someone who publicly criticised his conduct.
He has a history of 'hypnotic' grooming which has been directed at families who were soon to have a child.
He is surrounded by suicides in the South Wales area.
His response to a complaint was a formular intended to produce 'unhinged ranting' and loss of identity.
He sent it in an email.
Why would he use a formular intended to aggravate symptoms of Dissosciative Identity Disorder?
The next time he slips up, it could be much harder proof that child abusers attack their targets with malicious mind control for the rest of their lives, and that child abuse networks deliberately induce multiple personalities. |
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Mind control involves batteries of misleading and abuse of the kinds that are normaly carried out by sociopaths,
it is usualy part of a larger battery of misleading and abuse of the kinds carried out by criminal gangs (sex criminals in paticular) and governments.
Here's a clip about some of the bigger picture that some of you might like, (personaly, I think the guy's a bit nieve, but he does have a way of explaining things.)
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7040453665540929835&hl=en |
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Mind Control and the faking of the moon landing.
If the moon landing was faked, then it's a possibility that the Astronauts were tampered with to give them false memories of walking on the moon.
All a hypnotist would have to do would be give them suggestions that they're on the moon, and speed up their rate of perception so that they would feel like they were floating when they were running, then the film could be slowed down afterwards.
That's all you'd really need to do fake a moon landing back then, along with costumes and a stage, and a space program that could get into orbit.
If the suggestion and false memory were to last a long time, then the mind control would have to be stronger than hypnosis.
You don't need a Nobel prize for psychology to know that mind control is a VERY messy business.
So where are the **ck ups?
Well apart from the phrase 'going NASA' becoming the new phrase for 'going postal' what with the cream of the cream of America's adventurers going wild in shootouts, or driving half way round the world to kidnap each other with the traditional balaclava and ski mask deemed less important than slipping into a nice pair of nappies . . .
. . . here's one!
This guy's a NASA veteran in his sixties, and whenever he looks at pictures of mars or the moon, he sees them teeming with 'tiny humans'.
It's not like lack of sleep or drugs or even psychosis. These are all states where you can look away and look back and the hallucinations might have gone.
This guy has been seeing little men all over the moon photographs, and three different sized humans all over the Mars photographs, and he always sees the same ones in the same places.
There are only two explainations that I know of which are;
1) a prolonged sugestion to hallucinate the surface of the moon, and the surface of mars and remember it all his life as very important,
2) he's got a grudge against NASA or he's having a laugh.
After keeping his secret for many years, his conscience has compelled him to speak out at last.
Why?
Because the Mars Rover has been driving through heavily populated areas of Mars and squashing the little people beneath it's merciless caterpilar tracks of doom.
Laugh, cry, gaze in disbelief, goggle at yet another troubled soul in the grotesque carnival of MKULTRA's legacy, for here is the testament of another fine American hero who appears to have . . .
. . . 'gone NASA'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjBfhmJJBFM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwM1jZ7rQ9U&feature=related
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