Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: NORTH AMERICAN-UNION & Centralization of Power
From my research, I have discovered how the world is being ruled/controlled. I will begin with the fact that there are 2 types of prison's, or dictatorship's in the world. The first is the "Overt" variety, which are clear dictatorships e.g. communism, fascism, etc. And then there is the most effective variety of all, which is the "Covert" dictatorship, the one that masquerades as freedom. Note: people do not rebel/resist against the condition of not being free when they think they are free .
The elite, or Illuminati have been coordinating their agenda to create a world government, central bank, world army, and a worldwide micro-chipped implanted society, which is linked to a global computer for a long time now. Of course they had to wait for the technological advances to carry out their agenda. If you have an open mind and a functioning brain you can see that the things I've mentioned are emerging, quite quickly in most cases. The dream of the elite/Illuminati is to have a centralized global world which will begin with large centralized global union's of which the first is the......
1) EU, or European Union, which evolved out of the EEC/free trade area.
2) NAU, or North American Union, which is evolving, or trying to, out of the NAFTA/free trade area.
3) PU, or the Pacific Union, which is to evolve out of the APEC/free trade area.
NATO is merging with the UN peacekeeping operation and is evolving into the World Army/Police Force, they are supposed to keep countries in line/order, which do not want to concede their freedom(s) to the Illuminati world government, which is planned to evolve through the United Nations. This structure of global control involves pyramids inside of pyramids. For example, imagine the shape of a pyramid, you have the capstone at the very top, which is the World Shadow Government/Illuminati elite, and those who are lower down on the pyramid, the people, have no idea of what the organization they work for is really about. They just do their job and collect their paycheck and go home each day. But the powerful and few at the top of the pyramid know what it's all about and in this way they can manipulate thousands in an organization, or corporation, etc. to advance their agenda, without those thousands knowing that that agenda exists. There is a global version of this, which manipulates billions in the same manner. Same with the global bank, controlling all the banks.
Note: the more you centralize, the more power you have over people and events, and so the more you can centralize.
So in conclusion of this pyramid topic, there is a global pyramid which encompasses the pyramids of banking, as described above, and business, military, media, politics, and all other institutions that run the planet. At the top of the pyramid is the Illuminati (elite)world government who dictates/orchestrates their agenda for global control of all the covert supposed unconnected organizations, etc. Because the Illuminati cannot control all of the populations physically (with the exception of a few), they are moving towards more centralization of power. They have to control the way the masses think and feel, so they use the technique called; Problem-Reaction-Solution.
This is how Problem-Reaction-Solution works. The government/Illuminati create a problem that cannot be blamed on them, like some threat from another country that they want to control, invade for oil, etc. Then they stimulate a reaction from the masses, like using the news media for polls, or the people expressing their fear of invasion, etc. Then the Illuminati/government offer a solution to the problem, like, let's go to war and stop this country from doing this evil thing to us, or they take away freedoms, or introduce new legislation to advance their agenda of centralization of global power.
Just before Adolf Hitler began to fill his concentration camps he introduced an anti-gun legislation, of which is occurring presently in the USA. It's your choice/decision, you/we can choose freedom, or fall under the control of a global fascist country, which we are headed for if we give up our freedoms and believe the lies of promised protection. Just know that you can have a modern society and still have diversity of decision making. The Illuminati are desperate for you to believe that this is impossible, and that the more we advance technologically, the more we have to centralize everything. That isn't true; the Illuminati just want you to believe that so they can justify their global agenda. Don't fall for it
Peace...........
Last edited by IAM1 on Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:28 pm; edited 5 times in total
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
Posts: 1424
Location: ur base
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:39 am Post subject:
You sir are correct, but there's a problem. The sequence of events needed for the illuminati to reveal itself and officially establish the nwo was planned out a very long time ago and, for the most part, has gone off without a hitch (i say for the most part because there was that whole thing with the czars in russia but we know what happend to them don't we ). Ever heard of a man named Albert Pike? Brilliant guy he was, also a master mason, and an occultist. He is credited for the idea of making the world wars (theres a 3rd brewing btw), during the civil war. Albert Pike was a confederate (i think?) and planned out 3 world wars, what the causes, outcomes, and people involved would be, and when they should happen. The Illuminati are known under many guises and there are many smaller opperations that can be linked/attributed to them. Alot of drug cartels and porn moguls (particularly the porn made with women from the slave trade which the illuminati also has a big hold on). I'll have to disagree with you that there's anything short of rebellion that will bring the illuminati to its knees. You can't destroy an organization which doesn't "exist." All you can do is know what to look for, and be ready for alot of changes. The last presidential election was a big one.
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:19 am Post subject: The Centralization of Power
Hello Mr.Headshot!
Yes, I know and am aware about who Albert Pike was, and he was a confederate, a Harvard skull and bones boy (which goes with the territory), also an attorney, a Satanist, a writer, and a Freemason. There is a statue of him, of course, in Washington D.C. (Isn't that appropriate?). He was also the Grand Master/Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. He was totally into occultist practices dealing with Satanism. He wrote what he called, or what some researchers would say/call, the satanic bible (sick guy!).
And yes you are right about his idea/concept of the 3 World Wars. He claimed to have had a vision and received the information therein to predict how those wars would culminate, etc.
Peace........
Who Was Albert Pike?
Arthur Cottrell
Introduction
Rixon Stewart – July 15, 2005
More than a hundred years ago, a known Satanist and leading Freemason may have anticipated the recent events in London. Albert Pike’s plan was to foment three world wars with the third and final war opening the way for the introduction of a new global faith, a religion that would have Lucifer as its idol.
Diabolically inspired, Pike’s vision was to pit Muslim’s against Jews and Christians across the planet and with the outrages in London, and the media’s portrayal of elements of Islam as “extremist”, one has to wonder whether we are not seeing Pike’s plan come to pass.
After all, investigations into the atrocities are being led by some of Britain’s top policemen many of whom are thought to be Freemasons. Indeed, membership and participation in Freemasonry is considered the prime criteria in promotion in Britain’s police force. Could they be following a plan first outlined by modern Freemasonry’s founder, Albert Pike?
Given this, and the fact that Britain has seen a massive influx of various faiths and races, could this indeed be the first sparks of what is intended to be a global conflagration? We leave you to decide...
Who Was Albert Pike?
Arthur Cottrell
Very few outsiders know about the intimate plans of the architects of the New World Order. One such architect was Albert Pike, who in the 19th Century, established a framework for bringing about the One World Order. Based on a vision revealed to him, Albert Pike wrote out a blueprint of events that would play themselves out in the 20th century, with even more of these events yet to come. It is this blueprint which we believe unseen leaders are following today to engineer the planned Third and Final World War.
About Albert Pike
Pike was born on December 29, 1809, in Boston, studied at Harvard, then later served as a Brigadier-General in the Confederate Army. After the Civil War, Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed, only to be pardoned by fellow Freemason President Andrew Johnson on April 22, 1866, who met with him the next day at the White House. On June 20, 1867, Scottish Rite officials conferred upon Johnson the 4th - 32nd degrees, and he later went to Boston to dedicate a Masonic Temple. The only monument to a Confederate general in Washington, D.C. was erected in Pike's honor, and it can be found between the Department of Labor building and the Municipal Building, between 3rd and 4th Streets, on D Street, NW.
Pike was a genius [evil genius?], able to read and write in 16 different languages. A 33rd degree Mason, he was one of the founding fathers, and head of the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, being the Grand Commander of North American Freemasonry from 1859-1891. In 1869, he was a top leader in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. In 1871, he wrote the 861 page Masonic handbook known as the Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Rite of Freemasonry.
Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication. He was the Grand Master of a Luciferian group known as the Order of the Palladium (or Sovereign Council of Wisdom), which had been founded in Paris in 1737. Palladism had been brought to Greece from Egypt by Pythagoras in the fifth century, and it was this cult of Satan that was introduced to the inner circle of the Masonic lodges. It was aligned with the Palladium of the Templars. In 1801, Issac Long, a Jew, brought a statue of Baphomet (Satan) to Charleston, South Carolina, where he helped to establish the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. Long apparently chose Charleston because it was geographically located on the 33rd parallel of latitude (incidentally, so is Baghdad), and this council is considered to be the Mother Supreme Council of all Masonic Lodges of the World.
Pike was Long's successor, and he changed the name of the Order to the New and Reformed Palladian Rite (or Reformed Palladium). The Order contained two degrees: 1) Adelph (or Brother), and 2) Companion of Ulysses (or Companion of Penelope). Pike's right-hand man was Phileas Walder, from Switzerland, who was a former Lutheran minister, a Masonic leader, occultist, and spiritualist. Pike also worked closely with Giusseppe Mazzini of Italy (1805-1872) who was a 33rd degree Mason, who became head of the Illuminati in 1834, and who founded the Mafia in 1860. Together with Mazzini, Lord Henry Palmerston of England (1784-1865, 33rd degree Mason), and Otto von Bismarck from Germany (1815-1898, 33rd degree Mason), Albert Pike intended to use the Palladian Rite to create a Satanic umbrella group that would tie all Masonic groups together.
Because of Mazzini's revolutionary activities in Europe, the Illuminati had to go underground. In addition to the Supreme Council in Charleston, South Carolina, Pike established Supreme Councils in Rome, Italy (led by Mazzini); London, England (led by Palmerston); and Berlin, Germany (led by Bismarck). He set up 23 subordinate councils in strategic places throughout the world, including five Grand Central Directories in Washington, DC (North America), Montevideo (South America), Naples (Europe), Calcutta (Asia), and Mauritius (Africa), which were used to gather information. All of these branches have been the secret headquarters for the Illuminati's activities ever since.
After Mazzini's death on March 11, 1872, Pike appointed Adriano Lemmi (1822-1896, 33rd degree Mason), a banker from Florence, Italy, to run their subversive activities in Europe. Lemmi was a supporter of patriot and revolutionary Giuseppe Garibaldi, and may have been active in the Luciferian Society founded by Pike.
Morals and Dogma
One of the major sourcebooks of Masonic doctrine is Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Masonry, written in 1871 by Albert Pike, and is considered to be the "Mason's guide for daily living… In it Masonry is a search after Light..."
In Morals and Dogma, Pike wrote: "Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion...Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it... The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason… every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself."
The next statement reduces the Masonic philosophy to a single premise. Pike writes: "The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god... Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light...Doubt it not!"
Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees:
"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."
One World Order
In 1859, Albert Pike, who was fascinated with the idea of a one-world government, was chosen to coordinate Illuminati activities in the United States. He said they needed to create a political party that would keep the world fighting, until they could bring peace. Pike said it would be done "with tongue and pen, with all our open and secret influences, with the purse, and if need be, with the sword..."
In a letter dated January 22, 1870, Mazzini wrote to Pike, alluding to Pike's New and Reformed Palladian Rite:
"We must allow all of the federations to continue just as they are, with their systems, their central authorities and diverse modes of correspondence between high grades of the same rite, organized as they are at present, but we must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree whom we shall select. With regard to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledged to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one International Center, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown."
Three World Wars
As do most occultists, Albert Pike had a "spirit guide," who dispensed "Divine [Satanic] Wisdom" and enlightened him regarding how to achieve the New World Order. A "[Satanic] spirit guide" is a "being" who meets someone who has given themselves over to the practice of the occult.
One message that Albert Pike received from his "[Satanic] spirit guide," and which in reality we know to be a demonic vision, he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place. This is not because the devil has powers of prophecy, but because his agents have undertaken to manipulate political events to closely follow his designs. For a short time, this letter was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy.
"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." The "religions" were created thousands, if not, millions of years ago, of which all being based on "Sun" or "Serpent" worship.
Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.
"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events in the Middle East show a growing unrest and instability between Jews and Arabs. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.
www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm
Last edited by IAM1 on Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:07 am; edited 1 time in total
The above is based on the assumption that it is possible for humans to dictate the future. Dictating the future would involve knowing the future. Interesting but unrealistic, in my opinion.
The best evidence of future plans for world domination by an unelected elite class, is the Council on Foreign Relations. They publish a periodical called Foreign Affairs, and whatever is in there, is always a telegraph for things to come. Not sure if that journal is on line, or not.
I'll have to disagree with you that there's anything short of rebellion that will bring the illuminati to its knees. You can't destroy an organization which doesn't "exist." All you can do is know what to look for, and be ready for alot of changes. The last presidential election was a big one.[/quote]
Oh, no problem, you can disagree with me, but I wasn't suggesting that people just resist and then do nothing else. What I'm saying is be aware, "Know your enemy." People need to know who is involved, or who is the source playing behind the shadow government scene's of the "Global Union" or the NWO. That's the body, or substance of my post, to inform and to "hope" that people won't behave complacently. I'm not suggesting that we can eliminate the Illuminati now, but it may be a possibility in the future, and then, maybe not. Only time will tell.
I do think that if we are aware of what is going on, we can resist, and we can be instrumental in nonproliferation of a WW3 (although we are already involved in it now) I think we can stop it from advancing any further. We can be active in writing our Congressmen/Congresswomen and ask them to do something about what we are displeased with. I feel it is important to speak out against war, microchip implantation, negative governmental consolidation and centralization of power, etc.
Also, I feel, for those who honor this form of behavior that it is empowering to pray that the people of the world will not fall into the trap of war(s). These wars that are always created by the Illuminati/elite for their own agenda(s). I feel we will have a chance of being successful against their agenda(s) of world domination, etc., but we need to come together in awareness and be confident to take action against what is happening to our freedom(s), not just accept the idea that we have to give up freedom to have protection, because that is the biggest lie......
The one government world idea has been floating around since humans formed into groups. But that doesn't change the fact that humans cannot predict the future.
There is no doubt that many humans are in the process of taking over the world to rule it as they please. However, none of them has succeded as of yet. They'll keep trying but it's a big world with lots of people and few of them agree on much of anything.
What you are suggesting is that greedy humans are working together to take over the world. Sounds good until you think about how egotistical greedy people are and that egotistical people have a very difficult time forming peaceful, cooperative relationships with other egotistical people.
So how many of these Illuminati dudes and dudetts do you'all know personally?
Did they admit to you that they are part of this conspiracy to run the world or did you hear about it from someone else?
Have you got any photos of these people starting a war?
Good lord, do you follow the news? What do you think all of these meetings concerning the North American U.nion have been about? These bastards are plotting to destroy our borders, our constitution, and our sovereignty. Watch Lou Dobbs, he'll tell you. This is TREASON.
The one government world idea has been floating around since humans formed into groups. But that doesn't change the fact that humans cannot predict the future.
There is no doubt that many humans are in the process of taking over the world to rule it as they please. However, none of them has succeded as of yet. They'll keep trying but it's a big world with lots of people and few of them agree on much of anything.
What you are suggesting is that greedy humans are working together to take over the world. Sounds good until you think about how egotistical greedy people are and that egotistical people have a very difficult time forming peaceful, cooperative relationships with other egotistical people.
So how many of these Illuminati dudes and dudetts do you'all know personally?
Did they admit to you that they are part of this conspiracy to run the world or did you hear about it from someone else?
Have you got any photos of these people starting a war?
Do you know anything about Bible prophesy and if so, do you have any faith in it? I guess all that "antichrist" / "mark of the beast" stuff, is all fictional imagination? Why not read a book called Tragedy and Hope?
Funny how so many christians/religious folks are afraid to consider Book of Revelation and Book of Daniel. What did Jesus say about the days of Noah?
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: The Centralization of Power
okiejack wrote:
The one government world idea has been floating around since humans formed into groups. But that doesn't change the fact that humans cannot predict the future.
There is no doubt that many humans are in the process of taking over the world to rule it as they please. However, none of them has succeded as of yet. They'll keep trying but it's a big world with lots of people and few of them agree on much of anything.
What you are suggesting is that greedy humans are working together to take over the world. Sounds good until you think about how egotistical greedy people are and that egotistical people have a very difficult time forming peaceful, cooperative relationships with other egotistical people.
Yes, these type of people have a difficult time with each other, and it is my hope that this will result in their demise. But until that occurs, these monsters continue their deception and feed their mutual lust for power, which is the cohesive factor for keeping them together.
So how many of these Illuminati dudes and dudetts do you'all know personally?
They put up fronts and are masters of deception in all forms. Would you be able to identify an axe murderer if he/she spoke with you at a business meeting appearing like an average guy? It's highly unlikely.... and so it is for the members of the Illuminati, who are situated in various positions of power throughout the world. You need to understand that these people belong to the Freemasonry society and that they do not divulge to non-Freemasonry individuals their affiliation with that secret society that's why its secret. I would advise you to do some searches on the Illuminati and Albert Pike.
Did they admit to you that they are part of this conspiracy to run the world or did you hear about it from someone else?
This information is known from individuals who used to be part of this group and for lack of a better term "defected." And the Illuminati has been around for ages. If you were in a Satanist Religious Organization would you be flaunting your affiliation with that group to nonmembers and nonsatanist's? I highly doubt it. Also, various individuals are manipulated (by mind control/brainwashing) because this secret society is a "Satanic order society" which uses mind control on certain individuals to do specific things for them and comply with their demands like robots. Once these people/victims get parts of their memory recovered, some of them have been part of exposing this Satanic group/organization. The technique these Illuminati Satanist's use on their victims is called SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse). I have known of and listened to first hand experiences from victims of SRA. I've also worked with, and known a few Psychologist's that specialize in working with victims of SRA, or just RA (ritual abuse).
Have you got any photos of these people starting a war?
Do you have any pictures of anyone ever starting a war? How would anyone have pictures like that? Anyway, here are some names of people who were victims of the SRA/RA and who worked for the government and exposed these abusers that you could probably do a search on google to get some information.
Cathy O'Brien
Arizona Wilder
This first link discusses different documented victims of SRA/RA:
This second link is a transcript of a specialist who dealt/deals with SRA/RA. You need to read it all to get a good feel about what is really going on in this field. It's very interesting IMO. This page is entitled "The Awareness Center" and it will link you to the Greenbaum Speech, which is #2 in the Articles section. There is a lot of other links and information on this site that is very valuable too. I hope this helps you.
Phantom,
I take the Bible very seriously. But we both know that the Bible names the Devil as the one running things here on earth and not some human. There is no doubt that the Devil is, as he always has, working hard to monkey wrench GOD's goodness. The Devil uses humans as smoke and mirrors to confuse those who are watching.
Also, the prophecy in the Bible is GOD's plan and will not be altered. So I'm not worried much about the Illuminati or the other human gangs because I know who they work for and why they do what they do. There is no mystery here that the Bible hasn't addressed and given us instructions on how to deal with effectively.
Joined: Oct 10, 2006
Posts: 1424
Location: ur base
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: Re: The Centralization of Power
IAM1 wrote:
okiejack wrote:
The one government world idea has been floating around since humans formed into groups. But that doesn't change the fact that humans cannot predict the future.
There is no doubt that many humans are in the process of taking over the world to rule it as they please. However, none of them has succeded as of yet. They'll keep trying but it's a big world with lots of people and few of them agree on much of anything.
What you are suggesting is that greedy humans are working together to take over the world. Sounds good until you think about how egotistical greedy people are and that egotistical people have a very difficult time forming peaceful, cooperative relationships with other egotistical people.
Yes, these type of people have a difficult time with each other, and it is my hope that this will result in their demise. But until that occurs, these monsters continue their deception and feed their mutual lust for power, which is the cohesive factor for keeping them together.
So how many of these Illuminati dudes and dudetts do you'all know personally?
They put up fronts and are masters of deception in all forms. Would you be able to identify an axe murderer if he/she spoke with you at a business meeting appearing like an average guy? It's highly unlikely.... and so it is for the members of the Illuminati, who are situated in various positions of power throughout the world. You need to understand that these people belong to the Freemasonry society and that they do not divulge to non-Freemasonry individuals their affiliation with that secret society that's why its secret. I would advise you to do some searches on the Illuminati and Albert Pike.
Did they admit to you that they are part of this conspiracy to run the world or did you hear about it from someone else?
This information is known from individuals who used to be part of this group and for lack of a better term "defected." And the Illuminati has been around for ages. If you were in a Satanist Religious Organization would you be flaunting your affiliation with that group to nonmembers and nonsatanist's? I highly doubt it. Also, various individuals are manipulated (by mind control/brainwashing) because this secret society is a "Satanic order society" which uses mind control on certain individuals to do specific things for them and comply with their demands like robots. Once these people/victims get parts of their memory recovered, some of them have been part of exposing this Satanic group/organization. The technique these Illuminati Satanist's use on their victims is called SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse). I have known of and listened to first hand experiences from victims of SRA. I've also worked with, and known a few Psychologist's that specialize in working with victims of SRA, or just RA (ritual abuse).
Have you got any photos of these people starting a war?
Do you have any pictures of anyone ever starting a war? How would anyone have pictures like that? Anyway, here are some names of people who were victims of the SRA/RA and who worked for the government and exposed these abusers that you could probably do a search on google to get some information.
Cathy O'Brien
Arizona Wilder
This first link discusses different documented victims of SRA/RA:
This second link is a transcript of a specialist who dealt/deals with SRA/RA. You need to read it all to get a good feel about what is really going on in this field. It's very interesting IMO. This page is entitled "The Awareness Center" and it will link you to the Greenbaum Speech, which is #2 in the Articles section. There is a lot of other links and information on this site that is very valuable too. I hope this helps you.
In agreement, the illuminati do put up mulitiple fronts and are nearly impossible to recognise in some cases. EU, UN, WTO, Mafia, slave trade, freemasonry etc. And pictures have been taken of some of these people in meetings, and many accounts have been given about the goings on of these meetings. Okiejack, ever heard of Bohemian Grove? Lol lAM1, u and i were agruging about the same side of a 2 sided debate.
[quote="okiejack"]Phantom,
I take the Bible very seriously. But we both know that the Bible names the Devil as the one running things here on earth and not some human.
------------------
PT: I never stated that the devil/satan/lucifer was not running the program, but I also realize there are humans who worship the devil as the king of this world, they would be the devil's children/servants.
-------------------
There is no doubt that the Devil is, as he always has, working hard to monkey wrench GOD's goodness. The Devil uses humans as smoke and mirrors to confuse those who are watching.
---------------------
PT: Might some of these smoke and mirror humans be members of various occult secret societies? Might they be agents working for devils cause to steal souls away from God?
-------------------
Also, the prophecy in the Bible is GOD's plan and will not be altered. So I'm not worried much about the Illuminati or the other human gangs because I know who they work for and why they do what they do. There is no mystery here that the Bible hasn't addressed and given us instructions on how to deal with effectively.
----------------------
PT: So on one hand you scoff at existance of world conspiracy amongst children of the devil; while on the other hand you claim:
"So I'm not worried much about the Illuminati or the other human gangs because I know who they work for and why they do what they do."
PT: You know who they work for and why they do what they do?, well that's good for you, but what about all the other souls out there that don't know?, should we not strive to make them aware?
Do you believe the "antichrist" will be in the form of human being?
We know of God's Plan and the final outcome, but what do we know of the devils plan, hidden behind "smoke and mirrors"? Does the Word of God not offer us any warnings about the children of darkness?
As far as I can tell Phantom what you are saying is true. However, studying smoke and mirrors and spreading the word about them is not my job as a Christian. It may be yours. But it's not mine.
And yes I tell all the souls willing to listen the same thing.
If by the "antiChrist" you mean the second beast who is given a voice by the first beast? Then yes.
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
.
). Ever heard of a man named Albert Pike? Brilliant guy he was, also a master mason, and an occultist. He is credited for the idea of making the world wars (theres a 3rd brewing btw), during the civil war. Albert Pike was a confederate (i think?) and planned out 3 world wars, what the causes, outcomes, and people involved would be, and when they should happen. The Illuminati are known under many guises and there are many smaller opperations that can be linked/attributed to them. Alot of drug cartels and porn moguls (particularly the porn made with women from the slave trade which the illuminati also has a big hold on). I'll have to disagree with you that there's anything short of rebellion that will bring the illuminati to its knees. You can't destroy an organization which doesn't "exist." All you can do is know what to look for, and be ready for alot of changes. The last presidential election was a big one.
