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TheSlan
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| Why are you blatantly making things up? I'm not looking for an argument. It is a discussion forum, why can you not comprehend that? You say everyone knows what happened (presuming you meant everyone knows the reporter was scripted), but I think you will find that is untrue. As you have done throughout this thread, you have made things up and put words in peoples mouths. The majority of people see this as a non-story, they haven't even acknowledged it. I can say this because if they did, it would be a much bigger story than it is. No matter how much people go on about the press covering things up, and not reporting certain things, you cannot silence the people. If this had any merit, if this was a smoking gun, the American people would be up in arms. You have made these allegations against the BBC without a shred of proof. What proof do you have to show the reporter was scripted? You also have no proof that would aid in answering the questions I asked without casting doubt on your theory. I believe that is why you and the other people that over reacted to this story have still failed to provide answers to important questions. If it is so conclusive that this is proof of a cover up, why is asking what should be pretty simple questions such a big deal? |
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"Presumably" is EXACTLY the word ... There is a good dose of presumption from a certain quarter about the monumental "Cock-up" of the BBC. ... The repercussions of which can be seen over the entire internet; too many sites to even number.
I do not presume anything whatsoever ... If water is cold, I say it is cold; I do not need to say it is not hot, in an attempt to seem clever.
Most folk reading what is being written here, will clearly see I am not into the mental acrobatics that certain people delight in. ...
The fact is that the most prestigious TV and Radio network on the entire planet has made the most monumental "Cock-up" (BBC's words) in its entire history on a day, 911, which saw the most monumental disaster of the history of the world and then even admits to yet another monumental error on top of that ... AND AN ILLEGAL ONE ... That all THREE copies of the 911 footage have all gone missing ...
... OK, It WAS just a little human 'error' ... Everyone can see just how small that little human fault can be ... Yes, we all make disastrous mistakes ...
This is, after all, a PERFECT example of just what an apparently insignificant "slip"" is able to do.
Of course ... that is EXACTLY what it was! ... The old addage still holds good despite our modern sophistication:
"Many a slip twixt cup and lip."
... In this case the 'slip' was of a measly TWENTY-THREE MINUTES ... BUT WHAT A FURORE echoes everywhere; right to this tiny little corner of a tiny little web site. Meanwhile the planet goes hurtling through endless night through millions of years regardless!
FASCINATING MINUTIAE! ...
Much like the thought; which little finger-tip pressed the little button on "Little Boy"? ... And WHAT an effect was produced by such small beginnings!
But what IS amazing is just how little 'slips' and little events in the world's story so often change planet Earth's history entirely! ... There are countless examples of those tiny, apparently insignificant effects which leave a permanent influence on the entire spectrum of human existence and on the global panorama.
Will certain people now writhe and gurgle and look for argument yet again?
... If they do., it would indicate that a very hard lesson is due in the microcosm of human existence in certain quarters. |
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TheSlan
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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To look for an argument "again" I would have had to look for one in the first place, so no, I won't be. In fact, reading that last post it seems it is you that is beginning to lose their cool and having it turn into an argument. If you do indeed say water is cold when it is cold, you would see that this was a case of misreporting. Yes, a cock up. These things happen, but the desperation to find a smoking gun has blown it into something much bigger than it had to be. There is no evidence to say it is anything other than a case of misreporting, so what do you base your conclusion on? If you do indeed call water cold when it is cold, you must have evidence that shows that this cock up wasn't a cock up. If you don't, you're contradicting yourself.
One thing I have realized is that if it wasn't for my participation in this thread, nobody would be talking about it. It fade away. Would that happen if this was a smoking gun? Where are all the other supporters of your view, why aren't they here discussing it? I think a lot of them realized they were a little too quick to jump on this non-story. |
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On this forum, it's amazing how some people put so much importance on this teeny-weeny corner of the universe; much like a ladybird wandering around on the universe of its cabbage leaf. ... While outside SO MUCH is going on!
Speaking for myself though, I am beginning to get a little bit fond of this miniscule stretch of cabbage-leaf thought! ... It's providing me with a wonderful subtle insight into the workings of the human mind.
Just because the BBC has lost so much prestige and has admitted it's "Cock-up" over Jane Standley's clairvoyant crystal-ball gazing, does not mean the end of the world has come ... Though for some people it looks as though they are getting nasty nightmares perhaps.
I don't see anyone else on here very worried. Where are they all? ... And EVERYONE over on the BBC site indicated below are all as happy as sandboys too, arent they? It's as plain as a pikestaff; they are backing the BBC right up to the hilt over their little faux pas, arent they? ... ANYONE with eyes in their head can see that, can't they? They ADORE what the BBC is doing in showing us all what it is made of, wouldn't you say?
The URL:
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html
Perhaps there will be tears before bedtime; but only God knows the answer to that one! |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| As I said previously in this thread, the only people posting on the BBC site are people like you. People that believe this is a smoking gun. You couldn't have provided a more biased example of the people's opinion. After all that sarcasm, that is what you come up with? There is still no shred of evidence that the reporters were scripted. It is nothing more than the conspiracy theorists saying "the reporters were scripted, because we said so." |
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And after all Slan, the victim can only point at the rapist, and say "they did it". Until some other proof comes along it's only word against word.
However the PROOF is in the pudding. VIDEO. Timestamped and recorded and the time of inception. It's one thing to say something isn't there, but to deny it once it's slapped you in the face, is down right criminal. I remember thinking that morning when she said that, that it was because she HAD been told it would happen and she jumped the gun(so to speak). However when the BBC said she HAD no prior knowledge, well..... the wind was blowing the fart in the wind my way. So I naturally thought someone had taken a dump nearby.
Or a sewer main had busted to say the least.
BUT when I'm told that NOTHING had happened, then someone is LYING for whatever reason, and I want to know the truth. |
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There are people on here who do not seem to understand that I agree the BBC "Cock-up" was just that ... EXACTLY as the BBC itself calls it! That Have Your Say section was set up by the BBC itself too ... In an attempt to defend itself from the biggest faux pas in its entire history! ... What happened next on its Have Your Say section is as clear as crystal.
... I have a feeling the BBC itself would much prefer to have seen folk posting in its FAVOUR! ... But HOW MANY ACTUALLY ARE?
Just check out just how much WONDERFUL support they get, folks! ...
Perhaps something might be rotten in Denmark? ...
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html
... This is the DEMOCRATIC BBC's SITE, IN CASE SOMEONE HAS FORGOTTEN! ... Not belonging to a band of dimwits who don't know the world has been proven to be round!
(If the cap fits the dimwit ... WEAR IT!) |
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For those who are STILL not too sure about the BBC's monumental "Cock-up" as it has dubbed it itself ... Here are 386 MORE COMPLAINTS on the BBC's Have Your Say section which they were forced to expand into yet still ANOTHER section.
... Don't you feel sorry for this once hallowed, prestigious body? Maybe someone on here better get cracking and try to tip the balance for the hapless BBC and their much-maligned Jane Standley!
... I MYSELF FEEL SORRY FOR THE BBC, OF COURSE! ... It was the pride of Great Britain; envied by the world entire!
THE SECOND LIST OF 'UNFAIR' COMPLAINTS ON THE BBC SITE:
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/hteeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_comspiracy_2.html
So the story did not create a stir? ... Perhaps my eyes deceive me then! |
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I understand full well that you think it was a cock-up, but it isn't agreeing. When you say it, you mean that the mistake reveals a cover up. When I say it, and the BBC, I mean it was a simple case of misreporting, as happens on a regular basis. The BBC would have known they would get the type of comments they have when they created the have your say section. Of course they would have liked for some support, who wouldn't have? That doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of people flooding to that site were conspiracy theorists, desperately looking for a smoking gun. You seem to be gradually losing your cool, could be a hint of insults slipping in. Wouldn't want to start an argument now, would you Brightraven?
Quik, the video doesn't prove anything other than something was misreported. The reporter would have been told what to say, but that happens in ever news report. That means it happens every time something has been misreported. That doesn't mean there is a cover up every time it happens. Perhaps you can answer the questions I posed earlier regarding this issue, I would be interested to read your views. |
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Someone says "misreporting" ... The BBC itself does NOT call it that at all; it openly and transparently calls it all a COCK-UP!
A cock-up is a COCK-UP is a cock-up! ... EVERYONE knows what that means in English.
Now what IS the problem?
... Can a ´"cock-up" mean something else to some people? Some kind of chicken and thyme pasty perhaps? ... (Or even something a bit naughty, maybe? ... LOL!) |
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| The BBC choose to say cock up and I choose to say misreporting. So what? The BBC aren't saying they messed up a script when they say it was a cock up, they mean they messed up reporting the story. That is misreporting. It is one in the same. However, when you say cock up, you do mean they messed up a script. Yes, everyone knows what a cock up is. Nobody is denying the BBC made a mistake, but it is the nature of the mistake that is in question. All the evidence points towards something being misreported. Then there is the other side, with no evidence, that says the cock up was a script being read incorrectly. |
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Never mind the chicken and thyme pasty though!
... The most prestigious TV and Radio network of the entire planet ... the hallowed BBC ... Admits to losing the entire footage of the THREE MANDATORY SEPARATE COPIES of the most dramatic news story of the world's history!
Now THAT, when all is said and done, WAS quite succinctly put by the BBC:
A COCK-UP! |
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| Buenas noches desde Espaņa! Es la hora de cenar! ... Suppertime! |
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Which it was. What is your point?
On a seperate note, has the BBC ever commented on the possibility that they didn't lose the footage and that it might have been stolen? It was my original thought before I read the story. I mean this footage comes out of nowhere, years after 9/11 and the BBC's footage is missing. I thought that was a little strange. Just incase anyone gets their wires crossed, I am not saying that the footage was stolen. I am simply asking if anyone has ever mentioned the possibility. |
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Well by 'trying' to get the scripted automaton to say that, it would go along way for making a story more sound.,, Banking on the idea that they wouldn't get caught.
I'm hardly saying that they are 'perfect'. Quite the opposite actually "they"(whoever they might be) have shown their inneptitude at keeping a straight story.
The fact that there ARE so many unanwered questions, ILLOGICAL conclusions, and answers simply shows the innability at telling the truth. Because if they did, we would eventually get to "their" culpability.
I tire of these discussions because on all sides you have such people as... the purposely blind, the asleep at the wheel kind, the people who are responsible, the fanatics who hate any REAL free society, and then there are those who are like me(who believe only that what I saw and what I've been told do NOT match up), so it is getting boring listening to people prattle on back and forth about things that any side is capable of proving patently.
I cannot prove anything but the inconsistant behavior, bad stories, and so-called proof that is anything but.
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