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beatleboy
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I'm a 51 year old male and have never discussed any of this with anyone and this is my first posting on this subject, and I gotta tell ya.. I feel like a moron, but I just don't know where else to dump this stuff so here goes...
Is this anything that people who claim to have had encounters, can relate too?:
I have awful memories from when I was a young boy of experiencing sleep paralysis while at the same time having my sphincter (butt) muscles tighten up deep inside me (very, very uncomfortable) and the distinct sensation of something being inserted up my anus.
I experienced the sleep paralysis thing quite a bit when I was a child and it used to scare the hell out of me. Not all times though did I have the butt thing going on but rather just that intense feeling of someone being present, and I would fight with everything I had to wiggle a toe or something.. I actually still have that happen every now and then but now I just try and relax and go with it when I feel the "whuushing" and acceleration in my head.
When I was a young boy I also had nosebleeds all the time for no reason.
I'm a fairly good looking guy (they tell me) yet I've never had a relationship for more than a month, and that was only about 4 women throughout my life. I'm not comfortable around people and I have a severe case of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) which I've had all my life.. I was a neurotic child.
When I was older I had a few of these sleep paralysis things where there where strange beings that I could actually see.. not "greys" but other weird life forms.
Okay, that's enough for now and if anyone could offer their expertise without laughing that would be most appreciated.
I'm actually a very intelligent person and an atheist and a rationalist and an artist and musician too. I love the people who de-bunk this stuff. But that said, I have my reasons for not discounting my experiences as mere "mind tricks" but I could be wrong, I haven't yet ruled out mind tricks but there's a lot more to my story.
That's enough for now.
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: I can't believe I'm asking this... |
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I'm a 51 year old male and have never discussed any of this with anyone and this is my first posting on this subject, and I gotta tell ya.. I feel like a moron, but I just don't know where else to dump this stuff so here goes...
Is this anything that people who claim to have had encounters, can relate too?:
I have awful memories from when I was a young boy of experiencing sleep paralysis while at the same time having my sphincter (butt) muscles tighten up deep inside me (very, very uncomfortable) and the distinct sensation of something being inserted up my anus.
I experienced the sleep paralysis thing quite a bit when I was a child and it used to scare the hell out of me. Not all times though did I have the butt thing going on but rather just that intense feeling of someone being present, and I would fight with everything I had to wiggle a toe or something.. I actually still have that happen every now and then but now I just try and relax and go with it when I feel the "whuushing" and acceleration in my head.
When I was a young boy I also had nosebleeds all the time for no reason.
I'm a fairly good looking guy (they tell me) yet I've never had a relationship for more than a month, and that was only about 4 women throughout my life. I'm not comfortable around people and I have a severe case of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) which I've had all my life.. I was a neurotic child.
When I was older I had a few of these sleep paralysis things where there where strange beings that I could actually see.. not "greys" but other weird life forms.
Okay, that's enough for now and if anyone could offer their expertise without laughing that would be most appreciated.
I'm actually a very intelligent person and an atheist and a rationalist and an artist and musician too. I love the people who de-bunk this stuff. But that said, I have my reasons for not discounting my experiences as mere "mind tricks" but I could be wrong, I haven't yet ruled out mind tricks but there's a lot more to my story.
That's enough for now.
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Hello,
I think its best to ask your parents or if you have any brothers or sisters if they have had any simular "events" like this happen.
I dont really know what else to say about what you wrote but im sure there would be plenty of people thatd like to pick holes in you story.
Peter
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Hi beatleboy,
Physical ailments should be ruled out first, especially with the frequent nosebleeds. Sleep paralysis is actually fairly common, but it dosen't include the sensation of having something inserted into you as you described.
Do you have any reason to suspect physical or sexual abuse as a child? The mind often blocks out such horror. Have you considered hypnoisis, or some other form of life regression/cognition therapy?
After saying all that, I have heard of nosebleeds occuring on people who have had implants, but they don't get them on a continuous basis. They only get them after the actual implanting occurs. Abductees also often report a total body paralysis and a feeling of floating. And they are probed, poked and put through some horrible stuff.
Good luck in finding your answers.
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The nosebleeds aren't too uncommon. I've had random nosebleeds all my life as well, nothing too strange there.
Sleep paralysis often makes you feel and even see another (or several other) presence in the room with you, along with bright lights, terror, and of course paralysis. I'm sure you already knew that.
I would go for hypnosis as well, sounds like your mind could've blocked out something. |
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Thanks guys,
Yeah, I wish I could be hypnotized but I seem to be the type that can't turn over control to someone else. I actually took a course in self hypnosis back in the late 70's but could never visualize properly. Every time the instructor would have us imagine a leaf floating down from a tree I'd have to pick the damn thing up over and over again off the ground and start the visualization over again. I have an active imagination but I couldn't overcome simple excersises like this to get myself to a deeper state.
Oh, and I don't like giving up control of my mind.. but who does, right?
I think you all mentioned a possible blockage like a repressed memory.. this intruiges me, but I just don't see myself as ever being a candidate for hypnosis.
Can't someone just say; "Oh, yeah man! You were abducted!" cuz if there is some tramatic earthly experience that I've blocked out of my past that screwed me up I'd much rather that those involved were green, or grey, or whatever.
Thanks again.. Now if I could only figure out what happened when I participated in a "new age-y" healing ceremony around that same period as my failed hypnosis class. It was like something out of a Steven Spielberg movie. My hands became heavy as some sort of energy shot down my arms and into my fingers which felt like they were a foot long and made of rubber. They had me place my hands on the abdomen of an elderly lady lying face up on a massage table.
At that very instant it was as if my hands were magnitized to her body and there was this hard "thing" with the size and density of a golfball that would ram onto my palms with force at intervals of about every 15 seconds where opon she would let out a soft groan with each "pulse". All the while I was crying violently and uncontrollably (I don't know why) and I remember distinctly the dangling stream of snot that reached down to my knees as it swung heavily back and forth while this whole thing went on for what seemed like an hour but might have been more like 20 minutes.
As it turns out, the lady had a cancer in her abdomen and after the "healing" was over and the lights had been turned back up and the 20 or so people in attendance that night were buzzing with excitement their mouths agape and the woman had returned to her seat, I walk over to where she was seated and she took my hand and I'll never forget this; she said "Thank you, the pain went away".
Some in the class back then were convinced that they had been in "astral" contact with aliens.. I've never given much credence to those claims personally. But "something" happened that night, something that to my mind was of a quantum feild nature. (I'm only an armchair quantum physicst).
Oy! This is like therapy. Sorry for all that, kind of off topic.. or maybe not.
Got that one off my chest! So at 51 instead of thinking about what others my age think about; like what their children are doing (I have none), or about all my failures and accomplishments blah, blah, blah... I wonder what the hell happened to me that night nearly 30 years ago. I even emailed the Amazing Randi a few months ago and asked him to give me his opinion and let him know that I'm a real fan of his (I still am by the way, despite his brushing my experience off as likely having been drug induced.. it wasn't) and that I too am a skepic of these things even after first hand experience. He wrote me back and said it sounded like someone slipped me some drugs. I guess that's the best I could expect from him, and it's actually a feasible explanation.. only it's not true. I wish I had have taken psychedelics in my life, but I always figured I was already too messed up.
Again, I'll ask you kind people if abdutee's have had these sorts of paranormal experiences.
Thanks
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Hi Beatleboy,
Wow, that new age experience sounds very odd to me. Do you remember the name of the group you were with? It sounds like you were not doing it on your own accord, but being made to particpate perhaps by the use of drugs, or maybe you just think you can't be hypotized but actually were.
Have you ever healed anyone else by laying on of your hands, or was this a one time experience? I know some people have this gift.
As far as being alien related, I know many strange things happen to people, some of which seem to make no sense.
Mr_headshot is {in my opinion} the best authority on aliens that I have met in Black Vault. He perhaps has heard of something like this.
I do definately think that something is going on with you that seems to be way beyond the normal experiences of most people. What it is I can't say for sure. It may be a combination of different things that have happened to you.
The mind often trys to understand tramatic events in any way possible, and it often don't make any sense to the untrained eye. The subconscious makes up pictures and sees things in ways that our normal conscious dosen't understand.
What matters is your peace of mind. Its good that you are searching for truth and anwsers. I wish I could offer you some that would "fit the bill" , but I think you are going to have to do some deep digging to find out what happened to you.
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Item7,
Thanks for the input again. Sounds like you are leaning toward the drug induced hypothisis as did the Amazing Randi. This was in a "spiritual" what they call "ascended master" class setting (I always put quotes around flakey sounding stuff because I have no way of verifying such things as these). As I said earlier I have not ruled out a drug induced experience only because it is (even to my mind) the most rational explanation, but I just can't see that as being the case. For one thing when it ended that night it was over. And another thing is that these were not the type of people that would do something like that. They just weren't. But that said, I still am open to that possibility.
I wouldn't believe this sh*t either but since it happened to me I'm stuck with it.
I gotta be honest, I like the alien idea what with the sensation of long rubbery fingers and all.. but who wouldn't, right? I mean this stuff sounds pretty interesting. After the class was over I went up to the teacher and asked her; "was that me?" and she told me that she had led me up to the table that night because while the class was doing this "rolling ohmm" thing she saw a Native American "spirit guide" standing behind me.. uhhh, okay whatever.
To answer your question Item7, yes I did have a few more "healing" experiences in that class after that first mind blowing experience but none of them were that intense and none of them involved crying.
I don't know what to think about all this alien and "spiritual" stuff. I just can't discount completely peoples weird experiences out of hand because of what happened to me.
If you happen upon any information as regards an alien/healing connection please post it here.
Thanks again
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Well, a big "secret" with hypnosis is that everyone has a different style. Are you a visual, auditory, or action learner/ thinker. This is a big part of it. And once you realize what hypnotizm is then it MIGHT make a bit of a difference in your feeling toward it. Some drugs can definately produce the same exact meditative state that tibetian (can't spell at all) monks experience.
Now, as far as abduction goes; I haven't heard anything that tells me you've been abducted. Occams razor says you haven't and I don't really think you have either. ON THE OTHER HAND lol, you are probably experiencing something real. I wouldn't call it abduction or extraterrestrial contact or anything like that. But just be wary.
My best answer is that you're not going to be able to delve much further into this until you accept some form of regression hypnosis.
Another note,
Really Item7? Thanks  
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I have heard of the abduction or alien healing connection but I can not remember where I read about it.
I don't think hypnotic regression will get you your answers if your mind is blocked or unwilling. I also have tried hypnosis with quite qualified people only to get squat. In my case there is aparent extreme trauma in my past that I do not consciously remember but relive under certain circumstances.
As far as the weird new agey experience, I wouldn't automatically think drug induced at all. Group meditation, rituals, intentions or whatever can be very powerful either for the good or not so good.
Did you ever find out if this women was actually healed from her cancer? If so that was quite a healing session. |
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Myeo,
Many thanks for the info. I'm sorry about your past trauma and hope you find some answers. As far a follow up to my "healing" story I wish I would have been mature enough back then to have wanted to find out her medical situation. I went away to college and found out quite awhile afterwards that she had passed away.. it might have been years later, I really don't remember.
I will check out the website you suggested.
If I could find just one person that has had a similar experience I would be happy. I've heard stories and have never been very impressed. I've conversed with others that say something like "oh yeah, I had a healing experience once" but as I listen to their stories the passion just isn't there. The feeling I'm always left with, with people who claim to have had "similar" healing experiences, is like listening to someone who's never had an orgasm tell me how wonderful orgasms are cuz they read about them in a medical textbook.
The thing that happened to me must be rare. But I can't be the only one in the world that this has happened to. Maybe if I'd learn more of indigenious people in tribal communities maybe there I would find similiar experiences.. I just don't know. I feel alone as with some kind of knowledge that I can't teach anyone.
My mind is always in this place where for instance if I were taken on a tour of a technologically engineered facility like a huge particle accelerator you might find me sqauted on the floor way back behind the tour group assisting a tiny insect out of harms way. Even if it were a spider.. and I'm terrified of spiders, but who else would help it, doubtful even that someone not scared by spiders would want to help it.
Maybe I'm screwed up or maybe I'm not but I am almost powerless to the overwhelming feeling of life surviving for the sake of survival. I also love technology. I guess what I'm trying to say, albiet awkwardly, is that I relate to both worlds ie. the micro and macro worlds with interest.
Maybe it is this extreme sensitivity that allowed me to "open up" to that healing experience which was to my mind a quantum energy feild experience and maybe such sensitivity is rare and if that's the case then I might never find an answer. Maybe I saw a glimpse of where humans are headed way in the future and maybe where we've been in the past. |
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Another person you might want to check out about informtaion concernig your healing experience is Dr Meg Blackburn Losey. She is a healer and channeler. Although I don't get the entire channelling thing and I think in a lot of cases it is bogus, I think she is genuine as far as not faking a channel . Her healing energy seems genuine as well.
I have met both Greg Braden and Dr Meg at different conferences.They are both very nice people. Maybe you could email one or both of them about your experience and they might help you answer some questions.
I know Dr Meg is interested in the ET/alien phenomena and has had personal experiences. |
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Were you an alter boy?
Just kidding.
Definitely seek answers, you are too old to not know by now, but it's better late than never. Find out about your past and let us know. This is a good place to share. |
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I hope you all find your answers so you can deal with these problems, I`ve had some big problems in my life aswell and most of my life has been a nightmare and I`m not even that old.
The only way I`ve dealth it was well because thankfully I`ve become a very wise person and I`m very stuborn and I donīt let anything stop me, not even psychological traumas.
But at the same time I know that everyone is different so I hope you all find the right way to deal with your bad experiences  |
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| I've experienced the paralysis at least twice in my lifetime (I'm 19 years old) and both times I've felt a presence in the room but only the one time I saw something that looked somewhat like a shadow of a grey/alien but my eyes were closed so it was just a dream, perhaps a memory, I don't know. I can't really tell you if you were abducted or not because I don't have enough information. What other weird things has happened to you? |
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