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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: This is too scary...
This is absolutely insane, or I'm just going insane now. I actually had something VERY similar happen to me last night that made me think of this post...and you want to know what's even stranger? I also had a minor nosebleed this evening, and I suffered serious, extremely severe pain in the area of insertion immediately after I woke up. It lasted half the morning, and right now I'm pretty scared. Here's something else...two things actually. Today at work, I heard a voice very distinctly call my name(high pitched-woman sounding), yet no one was around. Another thing that's less strange. I think it might just be me, a guy showed up at work a few days ago. I thought it might be some guy with a rare condition or something. He had really short legs, and really long arms, no thicker than a child's, and that's no exaggeration. He had no muscular structure at in his arms...at least that's how it looked. He had a large forehaed(from the side) I couldn't get a good view of his eyes....I believe he might have been asian-ish. He was just walking and looking around for a while....it didn't seem like he was buying anything from the store....but I've never seen anyone look as creepy and alien-ish as he did.
Things like this make me question my own sanity. I'll tell it to you all but never to my own friends and family. All of this is true...this stuff really happened....at least how I experienced it. ..it's your choice to believe it or not.
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Thanks for the input again. Sounds like you are leaning toward the drug induced hypothisis as did the Amazing Randi. This was in a "spiritual" what they call "ascended master" class setting (I always put quotes around flakey sounding stuff because I have no way of verifying such things as these). As I said earlier I have not ruled out a drug induced experience only because it is (even to my mind) the most rational explanation, but I just can't see that as being the case. For one thing when it ended that night it was over. And another thing is that these were not the type of people that would do something like that. They just weren't. But that said, I still am open to that possibility.
I wouldn't believe this sh*t either but since it happened to me I'm stuck with it.
I gotta be honest, I like the alien idea what with the sensation of long rubbery fingers and all.. but who wouldn't, right? I mean this stuff sounds pretty interesting. After the class was over I went up to the teacher and asked her; "was that me?" and she told me that she had led me up to the table that night because while the class was doing this "rolling ohmm" thing she saw a Native American "spirit guide" standing behind me.. uhhh, okay whatever.
To answer your question Item7, yes I did have a few more "healing" experiences in that class after that first mind blowing experience but none of them were that intense and none of them involved crying.
I don't know what to think about all this alien and "spiritual" stuff. I just can't discount completely peoples weird experiences out of hand because of what happened to me.
If you happen upon any information as regards an alien/healing connection please post it here.
Thanks again
Beatleboy, all I can say is welcome to the club. I have had similar experiences of the healing part of your post. I had a back accident that knocked the seven vertebrae in my back that correspond to the seven chakras, according to the Eastern way of thinking. That brought to me the ability to heal by laying on of hands. Each person who can do this may feel the affect of the energy that is flowing through their body in a different way. You felt that your arms were long and rubbery and heavy. That is one of the feelings that some people get. I find that I have a tremendous energy going through my hands that need to touch the person who needs help. And yes, it feels like my hands are magnetically drawn to the person and to the spot where the problems is. I now can see where the problem is as if I was in the person themselves and therefore don't have to ask what the problem is. Then I let the energy flow through my hands. I too, have had experiences with Native American Healers who appear to me in the Spirit. I was given the Native American name of "Spirit Talker" which is short for (He who talks with the Great Spirit). The woman who gave me that name was listening to her Grandmother who was an Apache Medicine Woman (Shaman) who had passed over. She is watching me type this out. So, she is available for confirmation of what I am writing to you. This may seem so new to you that it really can freak you out. I don't think you were in contact with an Alien at all, but with a real Native American healer who came to you in the spirit form and helped you. This was the Native American Healer giving you the awareness that you are more than you know. I am also Chrokee, Iroquois, Lakot, and Black Feet, as well as English, Irish, Welsh, and French. I, too, have a connection that has coalesced in me since my back injury in 1984. I am now 65 and each day it gets easier to deal with what happens. I think if anyone would follow me throughout the day they would absolutely be overcome with what I receive on a daily basis from the Spirit World, and also, from the Aliens. In my case, I have been being abducted for a long time, since I was just a small child. I didn't have many abductions during the years from 15 1/2 to 42, then it hit me like a ton of bricks, both the opening of my chakras, the aliens, the connection with the Great Spirit, and it has never stopped. I am abducted practically 4-5 times a week. Fortunately it is not every night as I would collapse from the tiredness I sometimes get from the abductions. I would forget the notion that you were hypnotized, drugged, etc. as those are notions from people who may mean well, but don't have the experience to recognize someone going through what I went through at the beginning of my really awakening to the Sirit path and to the Alien abductions. I have seen and been taken by a great many different types of species from many differen galaxies and planets. I have started keeping a record of the different types of aliens, what some of their planets look like, what type of beings they are, are they war like, are they peaceful, do they have space flight, are they primitive, are they humanoid, are they insectoid, etc., etc. And I constantly get confirmations that I am seeing things correctly. If not, then I get corrected and make the corrections in my recording. If I could give you any thing that would help you to find your own truth, it is to question everything. Ask your higher power (AA talk here - 23+ years sober) for ansers. Then listen to the answers. If you really and truly seek the truth, you will find it. I did this, and I constantly find the answers. Also, I have found that others who have experienced the abductions, the spiritual side, the oneness with God and all that is, and are willing to share this with me, have come into my life. I am writing in this website hoping to find others who have answers for themselves, and for me to share what I have experienced and to give hope to those who are just beginning to experience these events. And now, as to the sleep paralysis. I have it quite a bit and have had it for a long time since I have been being abducted. I pay it no mind and wait till I either get some information, I am able to move, or I am to go back to sleep or into a meditative state. I mean, after all, this is the time where your body shuts down its needs and gives your mind and soul time to receive information. I can lay down in the middle of the day and rest if I am tired (After all I am retired now), and I can sit in my easy chair and meditate and not be able to come out of it till I am "allowed" or I have received everything I need to receive. So, you see, Beatleboy, your life isn't the same as it has been and it never will be again. You are not like other people, just as I am not like other people (well, at least the ones who have never experienced what you and I have). I had a friend who was receiving so much of the information that I had received and she was absolutely terrified of it. I spent over three years explaining to her what was happening, how to deal with it, how to accept it as a gift and how to live with it. She did very well indeed and is no longer afraid of her gifts. I would ask that you welcome them instead of being afraid of them, and understand that they are new to you and can be overpowering sometimes. But that is the spiritual path. I am not surprised that the Native American Healer spirit was with you. I have many that come to me, not just the Apache Grand Mother. Others have seen them when they came around me, and they didn't see that type of thing before. And, even if they didn't see them, they felt them and got goose-bumps on their arms and felt that Spiritual Chill run up their spine. (This is good, not bad, as it is their confirmation tha the Spirit has appeared.) So, Beatleboy, I wish you peace and acceptance of what is happening to you. I can't tell you how many people, even my age or older, are experiencing these things now when they never did before. The reason is because the Spirit is quickening and there is more being poured out into the world and into people. I am just lucky it has been a journey of 24 years for me to accept and learn what I know now, and use it to the benefit of those who are ill (and you can do it long distance - which is what I like to do, as that leaves out the ego part of it for me. That way they give credence to their higher power, which is the way it should be. Peace, Beatleboy. Welcome to the REAL world of spirituality and other beings in the Universe. Siva
Do you enjoy being abducted? Why don’t you set up a video camera & record the event?
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You've got to be kidding me. No, I don't enjoy being abducted, but since I can't stop them from taking me, I will make use of all that I learn from the abductions. I don't have a video camera and I doubt that if I did it would work with them around. I certainly don't have to money to buy one either. But, again, you've got to be kidding about enjoying being abducted. The times that I get taken by the good guys is not a bad exprience so I learn to accept that I can't change, change the things that I can and esecially to have the wisdom to know the difference. If I lost it everytime I was taken, I would have been dead a long time ago from heart failure. I do get really pissed off at some of the abductions, but that is a far thing from being afraid or really enjoying them. Some of the abductions I really learn a lot about the aliens and get to visit their planets and their cultures and these are great learning experiences. There is one thing though, I would find I had a lot more time to do other things if I wasn't taken so much. The Abductions do take quite a bit out of me physically and that is a troublesome thing as it may take a few days to realy get back my normal "steam" for other things. But, yours is an interesting question, Dejarma. I can say one thing for all of these abductions and spiritual awakenings, they certainly do make my life more interesting. But, I could do without all the bad abductions for sure. I have made a lot of friendships because of all the abductions and spiritual awakenings and these friendships have made my life more full and filled with questions that I can focus on and find answers to. I have had a very full life during my 65 years and have traveled across the country several times by myself and lived in over 11 different states in the process, and this is just another part of that full life. So, I will make the best of it. Thanks for the question, though. I am currently singing in two choirs and ready to start a male group for s;piritual songs, not religious songs. I also write music and am in the process of writing a book. So, I do have other things that keep me happy and I completely enjoy those things. One thing I can say, though. I don't know what it would be like to not be abducted as often as I am. I sure would like to try it, though. I have been very productive over my life time in the entertainment business, and also the art business. So, I would like to have more energy for those endeavors and get back to writing songs again. Peace to you, Dejarma. Again, thanks for the question.
Some of the abductions I really learn a lot about the aliens and get to visit their planets and their cultures and these are great learning experiences.
WOW….You make some extraordinary claims! You're claiming you go to their planets & experience their cultures among other things… do you feel that when people read this post that some, maybe even most will not believe you? Does this bother you?..... would it make you happy to know that everyone believes you? Just out of interest…
Some of the abductions I really learn a lot about the aliens and get to visit their planets and their cultures and these are great learning experiences.
WOW….You make some extraordinary claims! You're claiming you go to their planets & experience their cultures among other things… do you feel that when people read this post that some, maybe even most will not believe you? Does this bother you?..... would it make you happy to know that everyone believes you? Just out of interest…
Peace.
Dej…
Nope. I don't really care if most people believe me. I need a place to share this information with. And I am hoping this is it. I do have other acquaintances that I email on an every day basis and he shares his abductions, his dreams, his awarenesses and his questions, and I do the same with him. His wife and his family have been abducted as well but they don't really want to address the issue. He is the only one who does. I know most people will think I am a fruit cake, some freak who has gone around the bend, and I would have thought the same thing if someone had sent me such stories as I do, but then I hadn't had the experience. Now I do, and I would like to share those with posters on this website who are just beginning to experience these abductions they are having, or think they are having, and any other situations such as laying healing hands on someone and healing them with enegy. Believe me, I have been on the other side of the coin from where I am now, and I wouldn't give that person much credence for their sharing of what I am sharing. But, I think I would be interested in reading or listening, as I did when I was young, because I was having experiences that didn't make sense and there was no one who could help me then.
So if people think I am a kook, so be it. I have found out that since I have retired I have found friends my age who have experienced the same thing, or had awarenesses both spiritual and alien and didn't know who to talk to or write to. This site allows me to share some of the ways I have handled my experiencs and learned how to not be afraid that I was going crazy. I always make a reality check of everything I see, hear or do. When I wake up in the morning with marks on my body I look at my bed to see if there was anything there that would make the marks, what the marks looked like, how they could have been made, why do I have long finger bruises on my ankles that came up from a below my foot, aiming upwards, and try to put my hands on them and see if they fit, they don't, so I know I have been abducted. I don't walk in my sleep, so that is out tha I would run into something. I always check the new scars that appear on my body overnight and see if they are really scars, such as tracheotomies appearing overnight (I have had these scars verified by doctors as to the reality of them and what type they might be - for what purpose they were made). So, I don't approach any of this lightly, at all.
Thanks for your posting asking me if I cared whether anyone believed me. Well, I guess I do hope that those who are searching for someone to tell their stories to will feel comfortable in sharing them with me. Other than that, no, I don't care. I have spent most of my adult abductions days not daring to speak of this to anyone else. Well, I guess that saying that as you get older, you realy don't care what someone says about you.
Would it make me happy for everyone to believe me. Well, I just don't think that is possible, so I wouldn't expect it. If some didn't have questions I would wonder about the sincereity of everyone. So, no, it wouldn't make me happy. If you don't have questions, then I may not always have to look inside to my memories and experiences and figure out how to share them.
So...just out of curiousity...how do these planets look like?
And how are these aliens behaviour or whatever they have...
Saturos, again you are asking for a very long chapter on all of the planets I have seen. I will shorten the answer to say that most of the planets are somewhat similar in their shape, atmospher, environment, to Earth, but are different in some aspects. I will give you a few examples. Where the giants live (14 feet tall), their planet is very much like I would think the Earth was back in a more prehistoric time. There are no cities as we have now, no cars, no planes, no space ships. They live a simple life and are very content to do so. There are an abundance of what I would call a combination trees/bushes with some smaller (what we call scrub bushes around their living areas). I only saw one particular gathering of the giants and did not see the rest of the planet up close - only from approaching the planet. There doesn't seem to be many mountain ranges like we have now, so what I am seeing from the approach is more of a hilly type of planet in areas with water supplies running through the land masses. They do not have what I would call continents on the planet. It is more like the land mass covers most of the planet with millions of lakes and rives supplying water for them. I see that they have small game they hunt and eat, and they also live off the wild 'vegetables" they find, and they are in the stage of doing some farming and I saw that there was a type of "scythe" in one giant's hand so by Earth standards of equipment, they may use this to harvest a tall grass like wheat, or they could use it to kill their prey. I am just not sure as I was not told what they were for. This visit was very short, but very pleasnt. They are gentle giants who have no real enemies, not even other giants.
Another planet is basically a totally blue planet, with real cities and buildings, the buildings rising up high into the sky with the shape of a spire, similar to the Eiffel Tower, but enclosed with very vivid blue materials. It seems that the whole planet is the color of blue. The people are the same and they are humanoid in shape to some extent, and they are a very spiritual people and very friendly. The oldest son of friends I was staying with at the time, was taken there with me and he had the same type of explanation of the planet and the people when we shared out experiences after we came back. We both wanted to go back there but we never got the chance to. The people there were very open and very interested in talking about their planet and how they provided for their population. And they were very spiritually advanced. There were some of the population which wanted to do the normal shtick of gaining control over others there, but they were always defeated by the population in a peaceful overthrow. I don't think there was any wars going on in that planet. It was just plain beautiful and slighly eerie as all the world, even the people, were colored in a blue hue.
Then there is the world where the crab people live. The people are shaped like the crabs here from the ocean but they don't have the giant fiddler claw but their claws in front are smaller and are able to flight controls in their saucers. Their planet is mostly water with sandy small continents which allow them to build an industrialized environment. I don' t know how they do that, but that was what I saw. I think as I am looking at it from the approach, that there are larger continents which the perimeters, and some the interiors, filled with rivers, lakes, lagoons, oceans, so I would say that their world is about 3/4 water and 1/4 land mass. Can you imagine a world where the whole world is like a beach with the ocean, eddies, river inlets, etc., and the sandy beach which is everywhere. That is the best way I can explain their planet. I didn't get to see if they had underwater facilities for their ships, but I do know they are space flight capable. I also know that they wear armor to protect them in case of attack in outer space, but not our astronauts. The crab people have an armor type of covering over their carapaces with openings for their "arms and legs". It is so intgeresting to me, that even though their world is a large beach, they are space capable and their ships are magnificent on the inside, with technical apparatus that amazed me.
I guess I have been more interested in the people on different planets than the actual planets themselves as I would spend more time with the people than trying to fly up in the air to get a view of their planet.
Hope this helps you, Saturos. Like I say, I am more interested in the people of the different planets. I am not sure if it is that I am not allowed to see much of the planets when I come to them. I don't think I could even begin to tell you where the planets are, what solar system or galaxy they are in. I just get there and see them and "talk" with them. Sometimes I just feel as if I am standing by the aliens (I am an alien to them) and get to watch their lives, other times I feel like I am in a dialogue with them about their lives and their societies.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:09 am Post subject:
Siva wrote:
Saturos wrote:
So...just out of curiousity...how do these planets look like?
And how are these aliens behaviour or whatever they have...
I will give you a few examples. Where the giants live (14 feet tall), their planet is very much like I would think the Earth was back in a more prehistoric time. There are no cities as we have now, no cars, no planes, no space ships. They live a simple life and are very content to do so. There are an abundance of what I would call a combination trees/bushes with some smaller (what we call scrub bushes around their living areas). I only saw one particular gathering of the giants and did not see the rest of the planet up close - only from approaching the planet.
No cars, no planes, and no SPACE SHIPS. Doesn't sound like a very technically advanced civilization. You claim you didn't see the rest of the planet up close, "only from approaching the planet". In what, if I may ask, did you "approach" this planet in, your imagination?
_________________ "Isn't Life Strange" ... A book without light
Unless with love we write
... Moody Blues
So...just out of curiousity...how do these planets look like?
And how are these aliens behaviour or whatever they have...
I will give you a few examples. Where the giants live (14 feet tall), their planet is very much like I would think the Earth was back in a more prehistoric time. There are no cities as we have now, no cars, no planes, no space ships. They live a simple life and are very content to do so. There are an abundance of what I would call a combination trees/bushes with some smaller (what we call scrub bushes around their living areas). I only saw one particular gathering of the giants and did not see the rest of the planet up close - only from approaching the planet.
No cars, no planes, and no SPACE SHIPS. Doesn't sound like a very technically advanced civilization. You claim you didn't see the rest of the planet up close, "only from approaching the planet". In what, if I may ask, did you "approach" this planet in, your imagination?
I was hoping you would catch this after I posted it, as I felt I had misled everyone. I just didn't check my record thoroughly before I posted the above. I did check out my record on this species after I posted this. This is one of the planets I believe I must have astrally traveled to or was taken there by another race of beings. But I do know I visited there, and yes, I could see from outer space towards the planet in my astral body. There are plenty of books where other people have explained how they have astrally traveled to different places, even off planet. I have done this on Earth from the east coast to the west coast and I have talked to a friend out there in my astral body. He has also done the same thing to me from the west coast to the east coast. We would call each other later to confirm that we really saw and what we were talking about. He is able to describe my apartment here and what I have done since the last time. We don't often speak with each other over the phone as it is too expensive from my end because of my limited income. Sometimes he will appear in my apartment and I can tell from his expression (if he is silent) that he is in some kind of trouble, usually emotional, and then I will call him on the phone if he can't discuss it. Sometimes he doesn' t know he is doing this and sometimes I don't know I am doing it to him.. This was one of the gifts I got after my back accident.
In writing about the giants, I forgot that some of the aliens I have seen were seen by this technique, and the giants were one of those. I do know the difference between my imagination and astral travelling and traveling in space ships. When I use my imagination it is in planning a quilt or what I plan to do to change the way my apartment looks. I also know what imagination is when I use it to study how I want to present a song or a charatr in a play. I also know what it is to plan a dish I want to cook. However, the aliens I see are not in that category at all. My imagination has very little color, taste, smell, physical touch involved. There is just a major difference. There seems to be a strong censor in me that makes me know when I am off on my own imagination and when I am spot on in astral travel or receiving the information I do. Believe me it has taken many years to be comfortable with all of this, and sometimes I have to go back and ask for clarification to see if I have gone off course. So, in my posting, I didn't add that I thought these aliens were seen by Astral travel, like I said, I have a mixed bag of visiting aliens by space ship and visiting them by astral travel, and I was doing a cursory exmination of the information in my record and was in a hurry to fill an obligation I have here at the apartment complex. So, forgive me if I stumbled on that posting.
And, if you still think I am cookoo and making all of this up, well, so be it. You haven't experienced my experiences and how can I explain to you the different between imagination, astral travel, spirit travel and space travel? I don't think I can. You have to experience it yourself. I am not an expert, nor do I pretend to be. All I can do is share what I know with this website.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:
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And, if you still think I am cookoo and making all of this up, well, so be it. You haven't experienced my experiences and how can I explain to you the different between imagination, astral travel, spirit travel and space travel? I don't think I can.
I wouldn't call you a kook, eccentric is a much more pleasant word. No need for any explanation. I think I have a pretty good imagination. As far as space travel, I only know what the science tells me. I don't believe in spirits, so that leaves out spirit travel. Astral travel, or OBE, I believe have plausible explanations that wouldn't rely on the existence of the paranormal, or the supernatural. Thanks for the clarification on your post. Rather lengthy, but very well presented.
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And, if you still think I am cookoo and making all of this up, well, so be it. You haven't experienced my experiences and how can I explain to you the different between imagination, astral travel, spirit travel and space travel? I don't think I can.
I wouldn't call you a kook, eccentric is a much more pleasant word. No need for any explanation. I think I have a pretty good imagination. As far as space travel, I only know what the science tells me. I don't believe in spirits, so that leaves out spirit travel. Astral travel, or OBE, I believe have plausible explanations that wouldn't rely on the existence of the paranormal, or the supernatural. Thanks for the clarification on your post. Rather lengthy, but very well presented.
Starman, I would agree with you, most people probably do consider me eccentric, and I wouldn't dispute that. Everyone has their own belief systems and rightfully so. Whatever fits your paradym is what you need. I didn't believe in UFOs when I was a little kid or even up to when I was 42, but that changed when I began having all these experiences. And I fully understand how you don't believe in s;pirits, spirit travel, astral travel, or OBE. I didn't until it started happening to me. I knew I was psychic but the gift was not as expanded as it became after my back accident. I have spent many years since then searching for how these experiences could happen. I questioned anything and everything that has happened to me, and I have found my paradym. (Don't know if that is the correct spelling.) I am glad you have found yours. That way someone who believes in your paradym and feels it is right for them have someone to communicate with, and those who believe in my paradym and feels it is right for them have someone to communicte with as well. I would consider that a win/win situation, which I always like to end up with.
Thank you for your comment that the clarification on my post was rather lengthy, but very well presented. I try to be as precise and accurate as I can, though sometimes I do make errors. What I present is as clear as what I know to be the truth for me.
Peace to you, starman. May you always find the answers that are right for you. That is the way it should always be. No single person in the world thinks exactly, or believes exactly like anyone else. Perfect.
I didn't believe in UFOs when I was a little kid or even up to when I was 42, but that changed when I began having all these experiences
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Why was I abducted in my childhood? I have never been able to find anything that made any logical sense
“I have never been able to find anything that made any logical sense” hmmm yeah I know how you feel I get the same feeling when I read through your drivel
When people are so blinded by the fantasy world they live in they are often wedged so far up their own backside they forget what they have said previously & the anomalies flood out; especially when they waffle on, page after page like you do, Siva.
Normally I find a discrepancy within 2 or 3 posts but you’ve done well to last this long. So I award you 10 gold stars for effort. Nice one, well done
who's a silly boy then
I didn't believe in UFOs when I was a little kid or even up to when I was 42, but that changed when I began having all these experiences
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Why was I abducted in my childhood? I have never been able to find anything that made any logical sense
“I have never been able to find anything that made any logical sense” hmmm yeah I know how you feel I get the same feeling when I read through your drivel
When people are so blinded by the fantasy world they live in they are often wedged so far up their own backside they forget what they have said previously & the anomalies flood out; especially when they waffle on, page after page like you do, Siva.
Normally I find a discrepancy within 2 or 3 posts but you’ve done well to last this long. So I award you 10 gold stars for effort. Nice one, well done
who's a silly boy then
Dejarma, you have only proven that you are not worth my answering your posts by your lack of responding to my question as to how to post the "proof" of the scrars on my back, neck and head. I really didn't expect a different answer from you, Dejarma. Not at all. You have just confirmed where you are coming from? I feel sorry that you didn't have the fortitude to even face being wrong about your thoughts on me. I have offered to post the proof but as I said "would you even believe the proof when you saw it?" Well I guess not, huh?". I answered your challenge in my last post. But, since you won't take the chance of finding out that you are wrong, I will put you into the category of posters I was warned about (was it you that warned me about people like you?). If so, this must be a real power trip for your ego. Your actions don't stop me from wishing you only the best in life. Peace to you, Dejarma.
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I get the same feeling when I read through your drivel 
