With Frances Bean Cobain , some people claim she was named after a stripper friend of Courtney Love , some people claim she was named after Frances McKee of the Vaselines, some people claim she was named after Frances Farmer. Take your pick.
There are two pieces of evidence which I believe suggests Cobain named his daughter after Farmer. One seems contradictory - there is anecdotal evidence that when Kurt was asked whether he had named his daughter after Farmer , he said no he hadn't but he would have done if he had thought of it. This seems to me to be a blatant untruth or an excuse as both Kurt and Courtney were fascinated by the Frances Farmer case , either Kurt or Courtney would have thought of Farmer when choosing what name to give their child IMHO.
The other evidence is the song ' Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle ' - this song sits oddly on ' In Utero ' which is all about childbirth , babies , abortion and that sort of thing.
The verse to look at is :
" In her false witness, we hope you're still with us,
To see if they float or drown.
Our favorite patient, a display of patience,
Disease-covered Puget Sound.
She'll come back as fire, to burn all the liars,
And leave a blanket of ash on the ground. "
How the hell can Frances Farmer have her revenge on Seattle if she's dead ? Well , she could if she was re-incarnated - a concept that Kurt as a Buddhist would have believed in.
' False witness ' refers to the allegations that Frances Farmer made about being tortured and raped being declared false , I think its an ironic statement. Her ' false witness ' - yeah right.
' We hope you're still with us ' - Kurt and Courtney hope Frances Farmer is still on Earth somehow to have revenge on ' they ' , whoever they are ( the doctors who tortured FF would presumably be long dead ). Notice he doesn't say ' I hope she's still with us '. This is further evidence for a reincarnated FF , ' her false witness ' is part of a past life now. The use of ' you ' is more personal , as in actually being ' with us ' i.e. present with us.
' To see if they float or drown ' - refers to witches obviously , a reference to Satanism or black magic ?
' Our favourite patient , a display of patience ' - refers to Farmer but could also refer to Frances Bean , Kurt and Courtney's ' favourite '. ' A display of patience ' means that FF has waited to be re-incarnated before coming back to Earth for her next life.
' Puget Sound ' refers ( I believe ) to the water in which the witches will be tried , full of disease from their polluted bodies.
' She'll come back as fire ' - well , its a possibility , but it makes no sense if ' we hope you're still with us ' is true. I think this is metaphorical. This does refer to Frances Bean I think , when shes grown up she'll expose the liars and destroy them ( I presume this refers to the people who insist FF wasn't tortured , but again theres a witchcraft element of ' burning ' i.e. at the stake ).
Now this song does fit right into ' In Utero ' - its a song about Kurt and Courtneys' hopes for their baby. By calling her Frances , they hope she is the reincarnation of Frances Farmer and she will come back to destroy those who deserve punishment.
Okay , its an interpretation of the lyrics but everything we are doing on this thread is an interpretation !
'To support his drug habits, it has been alleged that Cobain “sold to the deadbeats on Heron Street, or at least engaged in a drugs-for sex traffic in order to support his habits”'
(op. cit. Sandford, p. 51, Kurt Cobain)
Was Kurt ever a homosexual prostitute ? He gave an interview to Spin magazine in 1992 :
Kurt: I always wanted to move to the big city. I wanted to move to Seattle, find a chicken hawk, sell my ass, and be a punk rocker, but I was too afraid. So I just stayed in Aberdeen for too long, until I was 20 years old.
SPIN: Forgive me for being uneducated, but when you said "chicken hawk"
Kurt: A chicken hawk is, like, an older gay man.
SPIN: Okay.
Kurt: Who sells children, like in Oliver Twist, you know. (Spin, December, 1992)
It sounds like he wasn't then , but that he wanted to be one.
Other comments by Kurt :
"...I've always been a really sickly, feminine person, so I thought I was gay for a while because I didn’t find any of the girls in my high school attractive at all. ...So I thought I would try to be gay for a while, but I'm just more sexually attracted to women...I mean, I'm definitely gay in spirit and probably could be bisexual. " So Kurt was attracted to men , but he found women more attractive.
In response to Courtney Love being described as a ' fag hag ' : “Oh, she is. That was all she did for about five or six years of her life - hang out in gay clubs. "
" If I wouldn’t have found Courtney, I probably would have carried on with a bisexual life-style. But I just find her totally attractive in all ways. "
Courtney Love also reported she had "...slept with about 15 women..." but she qualified this with “I'm not gay [nor bisexual because that is a farce], but I like women... I don’t think I'm bisexual just because I had sex with girls.” Ronnie Cray said something similar , he said he wasn't a ' poof ' just because he had sex with boys.
Coming from the redneck macho logging community of Aberdeen WA , maybe these hints were as much as Kurt could give that he actually was gay ? He and Krist Novoselic got arrested for spray painting ' HOMOSEXUAL SEX RULES ' on the side of a bank when he was 18 , was that just rebellion or something more ?
think the crux of whether Kurt was a homosexual prostitute or not comes down to whether you think the character Mike Waters ( played by River Phoenix ) in ' My Own Private Idaho ' is really a veiled portrait of Kurt Cobain or not.
Is Scott Favor ( played by Keanu Reeves ) a veiled portrait of Krist Novoselic then ?
Keanu as Scott Favor
Obviously there are a lot of differences between the character Scott and Krist , for instance Scott is the son of the mayor of Portland whereas as Novoselic was the son of Croatian immigrants.
If Waters and Favor are based on Cobain and Novoselic , then Van Sant could only really have known them from the gay scene as Nirvana weren't really that famous until 1991.
' Nevermind ' was released on 24th September 1991 while ' My Private Idaho ' premiered on 27th September 1991. The film was shot between November and December 1990. ' Smells Like Teen Spirit ' had been released on 10th September 1991.
Gus Van Sant had been living in Portland Oregon since 1985 so he would have been a regular on the Portland gay scene. Courtney Love lived in Portland in 1986 and saw Nirvana play at the Satyricon Club in Portland on January 12th 1990. Apparently Courtney pursued Kurt after meeting him here , but Kurt turned down her advances - he said " I was determined to be a bachelor for a few months [...] But I knew that I liked Courtney so much right away that it was a really hard struggle to stay away from her for so many months. "
Interestingly , Krist Novoselic had married his first wife Shelli Dilley in December 1989 , was that why Kurt was off relationships ? In ' My own Private Idaho ' Scott turns his back on Mike for marriage and respectibility - is this a coincidence ?
Kurt knew Gus Van Sant from the Portland gay scene, and did a free show for him at a gay rights benefit festival that Van Sant organized in Portland
shortly after Nevermind hit big. (mentioned on the sleeve of Incesticide)
Website celebrates sex between adult women, young girls
Celebrating erotic relationships between women and young girls is the theme of a website called "Butterfly Kisses
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WARNING: The Butterfly Kisses website contains graphic and offensive written sexual material and is not suitable for viewing by children.
Celebrating erotic relationships between women and young girls is the theme of a website called "Butterfly Kisses," which indicates the relatively unknown fact that pedophilia exists in significant numbers among females.
While the site's creators do not identify themselves, posted articles show how some advocates are attempting to create an academic rationale for what is commonly and legally regarded as abuse and molestation.
"It's very dangerous when you begin to see women organize in the same way you have seen men organized to rape children," said noted researcher Judith Reisman, who referred to the people behind the website as the "Women's Auxiliary of NAMBLA," the North American Man-Boy Love Association.
While the site's opening page features an apparently wholesome photograph of a mother appreciating her child, "the primary goal" of presenting the subsequent material is clearly stated in the introduction as giving "women and girls a tool for expressing their feelings and their love about this controversial topic, and to get people to open their minds to ideas about romantic and erotic attraction between women and girls that our society in the past has not been able to discuss openly and rationally."
WorldNetDaily was alerted to the website by reader Sandra Hartle of Spanaway, Wash., a grandmother who is part of a group that has helped shut down about 1,000 pornographic sites on the Microsoft Network's website communities.
She has discovered private sites on MSN depicting elementary school-age boys with adult men, but found "Butterfly Kisses" a particular threat to families like her own.
"Some of the information on this site is so terrifying to someone who has three granddaughters that I cannot express my shock," said Hartle.
"How someone could harm a child that is so tender and vulnerable is beyond my wildest imaginations," she said, "but when a woman can and does violate that child sexually it is somehow more devastating than even when you hear of these things being done by men."
The "Butterfly Kisses" website indicates it is hosted by an entity called "Ipce," which describes itself as a "forum for people who are engaged in scholarly discussion about the understanding and emancipation of mutual relationships between children or adolescents and adults."
The Ipce description says, "In this context, these relationships are intended to be viewed from an unbiased, non-judgmental perspective and in relation to the human rights of both the young and adult partners."
Global scope
The Butterfly Kisses and Ipce sites have Web addresses that indicate their origin in the Netherlands. A story in the Autumn 1987 issue of the Dutch-based Paidika: Journal of Paedophilia recalls "The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement" which led to the world's most liberal laws on pedophilia.
Dutch law permits sex between an adult and a person as young as 12 if the younger person consents.
Can legal action be taken against a site like "Butterfly Kisses," which promotes an act barred by U.S. state laws?
A private agency called Web Police, which investigates complaints of abuse on the Internet, notes that U.S. laws do not apply to the global Internet.
"We would have an officer in the Netherlands address it according to the country's laws, morals and code of ethics," said Peter Hampton, the founder of Web Police and several related agencies. "We can't tell Holland what should or should not be on the Internet."
But not much would likely be done in the Netherlands either, Hampton told WorldNetDaily.
"Their problem is the same that the United States has," he said. "No. 1, there has to be a law enacted that addresses the Internet directly."
Then, said Hampton, you would need to find a police investigator, prosecutor, judge and jury who all have the experience to address an Internet-related case.
"The majority of the time you're not going to find any of those, and that's where you run into your stone wall," he said. "So then we have to go directly to the suspect and see if we can resolve it without the necessity of going through all that expense and trouble."
Hampton said he works regularly with the FBI, but "they've got their hands full" with thousands of complaints every day.
"We get 1,500 a day, so I can imagine what the FBI gets," he said. "They simply can't address all these issues and try to prosecute them. They don't have the manpower and they don't have the teeth in the laws. The president himself has said hands off the Internet, it's an international community."
Underestimated problem
How prevalent is pedophilia among women?
Hampton says that he gets an average of more than 200 reports related to female pedophilia on the Internet each day, including websites, message boards and other forums.
It's growing, he says of the presence of female pedophilia on the Web, though sites related to male pedophilia are increasing at about 10 times the rate.
"But I was surprised that this was even an issue," he said of female pedophilia. "It's been since about two years ago that we've found it to be quite prevalent."
Linda Halliday-Sumner, a sexual abuse consultant in Courtenay, B.C., Canada, told WND that when she first began in 1980, about 1.5 percent of her cases were women who abuse minors. Within six years that increased to 11 to 13 percent. In the last 10 years, she said, at least 33 percent of her 325 cases a year have been women.
"It is very underreported," she said of the incidences of abuse by females. "When it is reported it's often dismissed or laughed at as not being serious. Motherhood and apple pie, you know – we don't do that sort of thing."
Much of the opposition has been from women's groups.
"I have been strongly attacked and criticized because I've spoken out about female offenders," she said.
The Journal of Paedophilia devoted an entire issue to the subject of women in 1992. In the introductory article, which is posted on "Butterfly Kisses," Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz write that while little is known about it, "As we dug more deeply into our subject we discovered that erotic and sexual contacts between women and children under the age of consent do indeed occur. In speaking with female friends, once the shock of embarking on a discussion of the concept of paedophilia wore off, countless stories came out."
Studies in the 1980s by researchers David Finkelhor and Diana Russell estimated that in the United States about 14 percent of abuse cases involving boys were perpetrated by females. About 6 percent of the cases were of women who abuse girls.
While these studies give some clues, the true number of women who have sexual contact with children is probably severely underestimated, according to German psychologist Marina Knopf. In an article on "Butterfly Kisses" titled "Sexual Contacts Between Women and Children: Reflections on an Unrealizable Research Project," Knopf said that this could be because contacts by women are more of a taboo than those by men.
She writes that it "is less spoken of, more hidden, and the women do not have any groups they attend or have formed themselves as do men. ... The strength of this taboo might help explain the enormous difficulty we had in finding women to interview."
Well-known pedophile advocate Pat Califia, who has spoken at mainstream institutions such as Penn State University, writes in an article posted on the "Butterfly Kisses" site that, "It is possible that sexual activity occurs more often between mothers and children or other women than between men and children. Women have more access to kids, and there are fewer taboos surrounding women's handling young people's bodies."
Over the past ten years, book titles have included "Female Sexual Abuse of Children," published in 1993 by Guilford Press, "When She was Bad: Violent Women and the Myth of Innocence," 1997 by Penguin Putnam, Inc. and "The Last Secret: Daughters Sexually Abused by Mothers," by Safer Society Press.
"The incidence of mother-daughter sexual abuse is unknown because it is a grossly underreported crime," according to a group called Making Daughters Safe Again, which calls itself the "only organization in the world specializing in mother-daughter sexual abuse."
Among the membership, comprised of women who were abused by their mothers, less than 1 percent report that any intervention occurred. An article on the MDSA website cites reasons for that, such as "the extreme rarity of the offender seeking treatment, the victim reporting the abuse, or the authorities discovering the crime." Other reasons include the fact that "therapists, social workers, doctors, teachers, etc., know very little about this form of abuse and/or do not consider it a possibility." Also, "perpetrators overwhelmingly appear like 'normal' caring mothers."
One MDSA member says about abuse by mothers: "I think that there is such a stigma to it. People don't want to hear about it and don't want to know about it. I think it must be really hard for people to hear that someone who is supposed to be so supportive of us can betray us so badly."
A recent article by MDSA says "the conception of female children as victims of inappropriate male sexual behavior has dominated the research, and thus our understanding of child sexual abuse. However, recent research consistently reveals that females account for about one in four offenders," according to Patricia Pearson's 1997 study.
In their introduction to the Journal of Paedophilia issue about women, Sax and Deckwitz go on to say, "When we embarked on this study we were also surprised that so little consideration had been given to the positive, fruitful side of relationships between adult women and minors. In conversations with female friends, we heard so many happy stories, related with genuine pleasure, that our feeling was strengthened that presenting a positive view of relationships between women and young people was indeed justified."
Big Sisters
The "Butterfly Kisses" site includes links to branches of the Big Sisters organization and Girl Scout websites, suggesting that these groups present good opportunities for women who desire sexual relationships with girls.
Resources on the pro-pedophile site include articles under the heading of "Girl Scouts and Mentoring" with titles such as "Women Mentoring Girls," "Big Sisters," and "Lesbians are to Scouting as Sunshine is to Summer."
In the site's reader forum, a participant identified as "Jean" posted a message Sept. 16, 2001, that said "this is the neatest forum. I have always been attracted to little girls (8-10 yr olds)."
"Jean" said she is a volunteer swimming instructor and asked members of the forum for their advice on "making little girlfriends."
The following day, "Poppy" wrote back and said, "You already have a convenient access to little girls as a swimming coach. Try showing them that you care about them more than your job asks you, i.e., help them with their daily problems, get to know them and become close with the girls who admire you."
Like "Poppy," many of the voices on the "Butterfly Kisses" site insist that they engage only in consensual relationships with children. "Poppy" suggested to the swimming instructor that she could offer to give a little course in kissing to a girl who seems to be flirting with her.
"But whatever you do," she advised, "don't force them to do anything they don't like. Good luck!"
Sax and Deckwitz try to address the obvious argument that "because of the difference in ages, a relationship between a minor and an adult is necessarily characterized by too great a power imbalance. The basis of this objection is that young people cannot always foresee the consequences of their actions, and that creates an opportunity for adults to use, or abuse, them. The wishes of the child are subordinated to those of the adult."
The authors object to that concern, however, arguing that "there is a power differential in every relationship. With children, great power differences play a role in their relationships with their parents, teachers, and even sometimes with their peers. We are dissatisfied with condemnations based on power imbalances."
Asserting rights
Like male pedophile advocates, many female promoters believe that children are being oppressed by adults who have taken away their right to fully express their sexuality in any way they see fit.
"Butterfly Kisses" includes a section called "Rights Advocacy" with titles such as "Feminism, Pedophilia and Children's Rights," by Pat Califia, "A Child's Sexual Bill of Rights," "The North American Woman-Girl Love Association" and "Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children," by well-known feminist Kate Millett.
Unlike the male homosexual movement, says researcher Reisman, author of "Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences," "the feminist movement – and that includes the lesbian movement – has been vocal about 'It's not right to have sex with kids.'"
Nevertheless, Millett, author of the 1970 feminist tome "Sexual Politics," said in a 1980 interview reprinted in the book "The Age of Taboo," that "certainly, one of children's essential rights is to express themselves sexually, probably primarily with each other but with adults as well."
"Do you think that a tender, loving erotic relationship can exist between a boy and a man?" Millett was asked.
"Of course," she answered, "or between a female child and an older woman. Men and women have loved each other for millennia, as have people of different races. What I'm concerned about is the inequitous context within which these relationships must exist. Of course, these relationships can be non-exploitative and considering the circumstances they are probably heroic and very wonderful; but we have to admit that they can be exploitative as well – like in the prostitution of youth."
"Sexual Rights of Children," is an article published in 2000 by the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco, which was founded by associates of famed sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, a pedophile, according to Reisman's carefully documented research. The article states that there is "considerable evidence" that there is no "inherent harm in sexual expression in childhood."
While some believe they have "scientific evidence" to support that assessment, the wounded lives of members of Making Daughters Safe Again present a stark contradiction.
"Too often, I prefer to be alone, because my heavy heart is too full of past pain," said one member. "My children get either a robotic mom, a sad mom or an empty mom. There are times when I meet their emotional needs, but there are times when I need to, want to and can't. I have to heal before it is too late."
Another lamented that "as a child my body belonged to someone else and I had no boundaries. I never felt safe or whole. It almost feels like you are someone else. Almost as if you are the abuser. That you and her are one person."
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Axl is a manic depressive and was abused by both his father and step-father.
The original album cover of appetite for destruction featured a robot (slave?) raping a woman. It was banned.
In 1991 Axl employed a personal assistant called BETA This makes more sense beause earlier in the gig, Axl told the crowd how he had almost been raped in St.Louis some years previously by a travelling salesman who gave him a ride after Axl had ran away from home. Axl escaped the motel room they shared after "waking up" to find this guy tying to have sex with him and threatened the salesman with a razor across the throat.
n the 1993 Spaghetti Incident album, Axl insisted that a song written by Charles Manson called "look at your game girl" appear as a bonus track at the end of this album. Well why would you do this? You would if songwriting genius Manson was one of your your handlers. Axl visited Manson in jail several times in the nineties despite never previously knowing him (allegedly, I have my doubts). Axl wore a t-shirt with Charles Mansons face on it during the 1993 use your illusion world tour.
yes, the robot is a symbol, imo, of someone under control by others
this guy played guitar for Guns n' Roses:
more robot imagery here:
more doll imagery here:
Do it yourself violence doll. (note the secret recipe caption)
Secret Recipe
Pig Farm murders in pig slaughtering barn at Hells Angels hangout 'Piggy Palace' (Pickton biker cult linked to deaths of 56 Vancouver women):
Quote:
Police found the severed heads, hands and feet of Ms. Joesbury and Ms. Abotsway stuffed into two white five-gallon plastic buckets lying on their side in a chest freezer at the back of a workshop on Pickton's suburban farm.
One pail was inserted into another. The uppermost bucket had the decomposed partial remains of Ms. Joesbury, her head cut vertically in two. Her left and right hands and the front part of her left and right feet were also in the bucket.
A bullet had entered the right rear of the head and exited through the left eye. Her jaw was divided by two cuts, one through the jaw and face up to the front of the bone near the top of the head and the second through the rear of the skull extending to the top of the head. The skull fractured where the two cuts ended. Police also found one of Ms. Joesbury's teeth in the bucket, court heard.
When police separated the buckets, they discovered the head, hands and feet of Ms. Abotsway in the bottom one. A cut had been made along the rear of the head, moving across the skull and stopping on the right of the forehead above the right eye. A second cut went through the centre of the face, stopping in the middle of the forehead. Court heard that police also found evidence of a decapitation between second and third vertebrae and a gun shot wound in the head.
Also, a shot had entered the head at the ear, passed through the brain and lodged in the lower section of the skull, Mr. Prevett told court. A .22 calibre bullet was recovered from the bucket, he said. The severed heads, hands and feet of Ms. Wilson, were found in a garbage pail outside a slaughterhouse on the pig farm. The skull had also been vertically bisected and a bullet had penetrated the back of the head. A bullet was recovered in the frontal lobe of her brain.
The Crown said police found only jawbone fragments of Ms. Frey and Ms. Wolfe. Ms. Wolfe's lower jawbone, with five teeth, was found in dirt and debris in a trough beside the slaughterhouse. A fragment of Ms. Frey's jaw with three teeth was found on the farm during an intensive excavation of the grounds.
Mr. Prevett also told the jurors that investigators found one bone from Ms. Papin's hand among a number of bones mixed with debris and manure in a pig pen outside the slaughterhouse of the Pickton farm. They did not find any other body parts of the six women.
But they found personal belongings of some women in Mr. Pickton's trailer, including Ms. Abotsway's asthma inhaler and Ms. Joesbury's date book. The investigators also found a .22 calibre revolver on a shelf above the furnace in the laundry room of the trailer. The barrel of the gun had a dildo (a sex toy) stretched over it. (guns n' roses fan?) The upper portion of the dildo yielded DNA profiles of both Mr. Pickton and Ms. Wilson.
Charles Manson's cult scrawled 'pig' in blood on the home of Roman Polanski
and Sharon Tate while murdering the 8 1/2 months pregnant Tate. Cult
lived on Spahn Ranch, CIA biker hangout/movie set where several Hells Angels movies were
filmed. (ranch was close to ranch owned by Howard Hughes)
Cobain was obviously terrified of CPS getting their hands on his
daughter Frances Bean Cobain.
When journalists called attention to his wife's drug use, he made
death threats in an attempt to prevent a witch hunt against
Courtney.
death threats Kurt made:
Quote:
From 'Come As You Are': "As soon as I get out of this fucking hospital, I'm going to kill this woman [Lynn Hirschberg] with my bare hands. I'm going to stab her to death. First I'm going to take her dog and slit its guts out in front of her and then **it all over her and stab her to death...She'd better hope to God that someday I don't find myself destitute without a wife and baby, because I'll fucking get revenge on her. Before I leave this earth, she's going out with me."
Quote:
Phone message left on Victoria Clarke's answering machine: "If one single solitary, tabloidesque or negative comment or statement in regards to my wife shows up in your book, I will gladly devote every fucking waking hour of my life to make yours unlivable. If that doesn't work, well, let's not forget that I work for the Mafia."
***
Those are pretty extreme threats on the surface, but if Cobain had been
put through MK traumatic ritual abuse as a baby, maybe the above
quotes can be considered in quite another context. He may have felt
that the very life of his baby was in danger, or at the very least, in danger
of falling into the hands of the satanists.
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looks like more mk trauma imagery, sanitized for mass consumption
of course
note the stage name Alice Cooper
real name: Vincent Furnier (another French name)
upside down pyramid, top hat, dragon flies instead of butterflies)
song from Alice Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare album called
Cold Ethyl:
Quote:
One thing I miss is Cold Ethyl and her skeleton kiss
We met last night making love under the refrigerator light
Ethyl Ethyl let me squeeze you in my arms
Ethyl Ethyl come and freeze me with your charms
One thing
No lie
Ethyl's frigid as an eskimo pie
She's cool in bed
Well she oughta be 'cuz Ethyl's dead
Ethyl Ethyl let me squeeze you in my arms
Ethyl Ethyl come and freeze me with your charms
Come on Cold Ethyl
Freeze me babe
One thing - it's true
Cold Ethyl I am stuck on you
And everything is my way
Ethyl don't have much to say
Ethyl Ethyl let me squeeze you in my arms
Ethyl Ethyl come and freeze me with your charms
Come here Cold Ethyl
What makes you so cold? Ooh so cold
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
If I live 'til ninety-seven
You'll still be waiting in refrigerator heaven
'cuz you're cool
You're on ice
Cold Ethyl
You're my paradise
ethyl alcohol is a component of embalming fluid
clown paint
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A horrified Vincent Furnier is dragged into an ambulance by psychiatric personnel,
as the 'doctor', 'nurse Rozetta' , and a truckload of hidden ghouls await.
Makes you think twice about images like this. Notice the nurse 'silence' gesture
I was thinking of 'fruits' in terms of the mind control gay programming that we have been discussing in this thread. The Illuminati may refer to these people as their 'fruits' , as in reference to the expression ' the fruits of our labors', or the 'produce' that they create through mk.
Slaves in general, including mk slaves, are considered by the Illuminati to be raised produce and /or 'livestock'. Some produce/livestock are raised as workers, some raised for food, and some raised as pets. Babies born and bred (genetically selected?) for gay programming would be considered produce.
Hence the term 'fruits'.
check out the lyrics to the song 'In Bloom', by Kurt Cobain
imo, this song may be about kids bred for mk projects:ie: a look at how drug addicted families spend their every dime on drugs and have nothing left over for food.
Lyrics to the Nirvana song 'In Bloom', from the album 'Nevermind':
Quote:
Sell the kids for food
Weather changes moods
Spring is here again
Reproductive glands
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what means
knows no what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
We can have some more
Nature is a whore
Bruises on the fruit
Tender age in bloom
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means and I say yeeeaaah
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"sell the kids for food": some poor people sell their children to whoever wants them (for mk).
because they need to eat, and all their money is going toward drug addiction.
"weather changes moods": they , mother, might be depressed about selling the kids, but spring always returns again, and she can reproduce again, ie: replace them by having sex in the spring.
"we can have some more" , imo, means, they are selling their children, but they can always have some more kids (replace those sold) , and need the money, so let them go. There's more where that came from.
"nature is a whore": they can make money on nature, similar to raising and selling animals, are harnessing and perverting nature's process of reproduction , for money.
"bruises on the fruit": means the parents consider their own kids to be just damaged produce,
to be sold into the market
imo, this song is about how mk slave families are starved into submission, into selling their kids,
ie: a look at how drug addicted families spend their every dime on drugs and have nothing left over for food.
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another thought re: coded language, the term 'fairies'
used to describe feminine gay males.
the video for the Elton John song 'Someone Saved My Life Tonight' had a
central theme of a male angel/fairy character manifesting itself in scenes of horror.
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Pride Fairy: Bestowing her blessings on the revelers below at Pride in Mexico City.
Fruitopia is a fruit flavoured, non-carbonated drink introduced by The Coca-Cola Company in 1994 and targeted at teens and young adults. According to New York Times business reports, it was invented as part of a push by Coca-Cola to capitalize on the success of Snapple and other flavored tea drinks.
The most common flavor of this drink is "Strawberry Passion Awareness." This flavor is available at drink fountains as well as McDonald's as Coca-Cola pushed this drink to market in many places. Fruitopia vending machines have also appeared in some schools and college campuses, in addition to, or as a replacement to soda. After Fruitopia was introduced in the United States, TIME magazine named it one of the Top 10 New Products of 1994.
Other flavors included The Grape Beyond, Tangerine Wavelength, Citrus Excursion, Fruit Integration, Pink Lemonade Euphoria, Lemonade Love & Hope, Raspberry Psychic Lemonade, and Beachside Blast. These flavors were available in the United States. A much wider array of flavors was available in the UK. In a drive to remake the brand and remarket it as more relevant to Generation X, Coca-Cola dropped several flavors in 1996 and added and renamed others.
Fruitopia had rather unusual commercials despite the simplicity of the product behind them. They featured animation using imagery of fruit arrayed in colorful, spinning kaleidoscope patterns. This was accompanied by idealistic aphorisms reminiscent of hippie poetry of the 1960s, such as might be found in advertisements which ran in underground press newspapers of the period. Background music on several of the ads was provided by The Muffs, Kate Bush, and the Cocteau Twins also contributed.
There is a beautiful person
living inside you!
Please share a Raspberry Psychic Lemonade
with him or her.
Fruitopia was discontinued by Coca-Cola in the United States in 2001, being replaced by the Minute Maid moniker. A similar situation occurred by PepsiCo, who replaced their own Fruitopia clone, Fruit Works, with the Tropicana moniker. However, Fruitopia Strawberry Passion Awareness is still available in the United States (branded as Minute Maid) in McDonalds fountain machines nationwide.
Fruitopia juice is still available in Canada in a wide variety of flavours, and has recently been released into Australia. The ingredients in Canadian and former American Fruitopia drinks are not the same and they also taste(d) different; the United States version has chemicals/preservatives added. In 2007, Coca-Cola GmbH Germany released a new fruit juice line under the name Fruitopia by Minute Maid.
Popular Culture
In The Simpsons episode "Lisa's Sax," a TV ad says: "Well sir, we got a scorcher today! And to cool off, nothing beats Fruitopia! The iced tea brewed by hippies but distributed by a heartless, multi-national corporation!" In the later episode "They Saved Lisa's Brain", guest star Stephen Hawking says "I wanted to see your utopia, but now I see it is more of a Fruitopia."
A Fruitopia machine was briefly visible in the Sacred Heart Hospital cafeteria at the end of the April 10, 2008 episode of NBC's Scrubs. A Fruitopia machine is visible in the hallway of a Camden College dorm in the movie The Rules of Attraction, after character Lauren returns following the bathtub suicide scene. A Fruitopia machine is briefly visible in the office in the 1996 film Independence Day.
The Venture Brothers episode aired on June 8, 2008, The Doctor Is Sin, makes reference to Fruitopia.
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CocaCola company loves subliminals. This Fruitopia can , if you
look at it, looks like one big face on the front. You can see
a little heiroglyph stick man on the can , with one eye.
If you take another look , you can see a big version of the
little guys head, with the two i's dots literally forming eyes and a down-turned mouth
formed by the line under the letters of Fruitopia, with a
thin neck from his head, leading down to the extra large
lettering in the word OZ. Shake gently before
experiencing the grape beyond, (its all totally natural),
legs splayed body,
neck leading to vessel containing fluid.
also compare the mk spiral on the top right side of the Fruitopia can above,
to the mkspiral in the DreamCast logo here:
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