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Forte, you tempt like arrogance, Madame Bovine to opine twiddle twine ad infinitum.
Invisible slaves outnumber the Obamanations - that is why, in order to perpetuate the secrets of relative MC ghetto gutter gain, they are so brutal and unceasing in their prescient dogpile machinations. Arrogance is to opining, what hegemony is to technological TV and internet programming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU
The nobody's aren't entitled to opinions, neither the rich and famous date rape cocktail party favorites. Brittney Spears was ripped to pieces by rabid dogs because she is a corporafasci mind control media con Peacock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmQbtYbX6DM
"The need to lead is a symptom." said the Master in Whitley Strieber's book "The Key." Sounds a bit like PnG/MwK's concern for megalomaniac messiah pedantry. Even the rich and famous die a little when the invisible slave barrens are razed: Their secret of relative gain dictates it's better to see an annual decrease in their own elitist profits than a rise in everyone else's standards of pain.
Hero worship is also symptomatic - Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Patria Mori . Contains enough irony to immortalize any unknown soldier - posthumously. As does Whiltery Strieber's Master's statement for the invisible slave barren children:
"I tell you this, when one of my children dies in the slave barrens that cover this planet, I also die, and you, my arrogant friend, even you die a little." - Master of the inveigled and slaughtered slave barren children to WS, in "The Key." |
Poor Forte, he appears to have taken personally, a reference to the generally accepted knowledge that the act of taking pen to paper requires a goodly dose of arrogance - Escpecially from Cranford's bovine.
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Smith.
Not arrogance....Satya is a dear friend of mine, we simply poke fun at one another from time to time.
And I really am Nobody. Not only am I at the rock bottom of social class, whether here or at UC my opinion is treated with little more than a sense of passive irritation.
I have no arrogance inside of me at all....well okay, maybe a smidgen.
The truth is I respect all of you greatly. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. I certainly am not here to try and cause Madame Bovine to opine twiddle twine ad infinitum. Sure sometimes i get bored and say outlandish things as a matter of course...but usually I just genuinely want to hear what you have to say, and I can barely get you to talk to me without directly asking you pointed questions. |
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Poor Forte, he appears to have taken personally, a reference to the generally accepted knowledge that the act of taking pen to paper requires a goodly dose of arrogance - Escpecially from Cranford's bovine.
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I apologize. I worry you think I am associated with funny business, so it's easy for me to take what you say, as in this case, and feel like you are having disdain for me.
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| Slowburn Subliminal Assassination, like Munchausen's cocktail party charity - is facilitated by concerned care givers. |
The thing is, care GIVERS are not necessarily care HAVERS.
I care.
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I think Smith's persecution complex implies latent guilt & self-loathing which is born of her inferiority complex, which is born of her need for validation from the world she believes is persecuting her.  
It's a vicious circle-jerk. 
I think Fort's dissociative tendencies are due to his wanting to be all things to all people, which creates inner psychic turmoil as he self-invalidates, thus producing a feedback loop of quiet rage that he then further dissociates from.
He should try being a dickhead sometime, as the situation merits it, according to his own judgment, which I think is sound enough. 
I think Satya is the most well-adjusted poster here. 
And me?...
I feed off of my own emotional states uncontrollably, becoming delusional in my extremes of thought, which then leads to dissociation as an attempt to restore balance, but only further feeds my bouncing back & forth from extreme to extreme as the excessive dissociated state engenders the very same emotional hunger that causes that feeding off of itself.
The common denominator here (possibly excepting Satya, godz bless Ye) seems to be an obsessive control-freakery indicative of a most profound variety of vanity that takes itself waaaaaaay too serious.
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| I know...I know...fly on the wall..... |
Oh, my bad! I left you out! 
Here, lemme fixie:
I think questioner must have really muscular eyeballs from all that rolling...
There! All better?
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Sorry for the interruption...don't mind me, please continue praising ...ehh, i mean please continue your analysis of Smith and Fort, most interesting... i'm just taking my new signature out for a test drive. 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGIN6iw7hMs
"Painted blue across my eyes and tie the linen on
And I'm on my way, I'm on my way
Looking for the paradigm so I can pass it off
Is it on my side, on my side?
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky and down?
Searching for a ground with my good eye closed
If I took you for a ride, would you take it wrong?
Or would you make it right, make it right?
Looking for a pedestal that I can put you on
And be on my way, on my way
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky and down?
Searching for a ground with my good eye closed
With my good eye closed
With my good eye closed
With my good eye closed
With my good eye closed
With my good eye closed
With my good eye closed
Stop, you're trying to bruise my mind
I can do it on my own
Stop, you're trying to kill my time
It's been my death since I was born
I don't remember half the time if I'm hiding or I'm lost
But I'm on my way, on my way
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
(I'm on my way) To the sky
(I'm on my way) To the sky
(I'm on my way) To the sky
(I'm on my way) To the sky
I'm on my way (To the sky)
I'm on my way
I'm on my way
To the sky
To the sky
On my way
On my way
Is it to the sky?
To the sky
Is it to the sky?
Is it to the sky?
To the sky"
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Sorry for the interruption...don't mind me, please continue praising ...ehh, i mean please continue your analysis of Smith and Fort, most interesting... i'm just taking my new signature out for a test drive.
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Man, yer cool.
I'm cool, too!
See? See?
See my really cool cool emoticon?
Soooo... are you cool enough to recognize the inevitability of our awesomely cool friendship?? |
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I think Fort's dissociative tendencies are due to his wanting to be all things to all people, which creates inner psychic turmoil as he self-invalidates, thus producing a feedback loop of quiet rage that he then further dissociates from.
He should try being a dickhead sometime, as the situation merits it, according to his own judgment, which I think is sound enough.
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I think that's a pretty fair assessment, PNG.
Only problem is, I have a desperate need to BE all things to all people. When I see a part of them that reminds me of a *cough* part of me, I feel it is that way "for a reason", and that "someone else" is charging me with this task....compelled. Probably a load of bunk, eh?
My problem with being a dickhead (and satya has seen me on the verge of this) is that even when im pissed I still apologize for anything I say that could be seen as disrespectful.
I think that's why it bothers me so much when I really do try to be fair to all parties yet there is always at least ONE person (or party) who refuses to accept my universal respect of them, and rather would see us as enemies. I hate to be an enemy.
Especially when I go so drastically far out of my way to have it turn out the opposite of that.
But all in all, your words most certainly ring true...especially about satya being the most "well adjusted" of us all.
Hell this is indicated by the fact that he's been talking to Smith for much less time than me, or anyone else here, and he already got a "just kidding" out of her! SCANDALOUS!
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I think Fort's dissociative tendencies are due to his wanting to be all things to all people, which creates inner psychic turmoil as he self-invalidates, thus producing a feedback loop of quiet rage that he then further dissociates from.
He should try being a dickhead sometime, as the situation merits it, according to his own judgment, which I think is sound enough.
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I think that's a pretty fair assessment, PNG. |
Please, I hope you didn't interpret it as a negative judgment of you as a whole person. I intended it to be as honest as I could perceive, yet humorous & caring. I didn't intend it to cause you to feel bad about yourself.
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| Only problem is, I have a desperate need to BE all things to all people. When I see a part of them that reminds me of a *cough* part of me, I feel it is that way "for a reason", and that "someone else" is charging me with this task....compelled. Probably a load of bunk, eh? |
No, not bunk.
It's called empathy. It means you're human. That's a good thing.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to please others/wanting to be liked, per se, but it is not healthy for you to do so to such a great extent that it causes your self problems, as seems to be the case.
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My problem with being a dickhead (and satya has seen me on the verge of this) is that even when im pissed I still apologize for anything I say that could be seen as disrespectful.
I think that's why it bothers me so much when I really do try to be fair to all parties yet there is always at least ONE person (or party) who refuses to accept my universal respect of them, and rather would see us as enemies. I hate to be an enemy. |
I understand very well. I don't like it when people dislike me, either. I have always had a natural, loving affinity for others. I see their plights as my plights, and when they succeed, I experience joy. It has caused me great pain, as well. From childhood, I was highly empathetic, but grew up under irrational cruelty and domineering. I was not often allowed to do any of the "normal" things, such as have friends, or laugh, and such. I was in a near-constant flight-or-fight state of mind. Since I was a helpless child, and at the mercy of adults who I loved, I couldn't exactly do either. The tyranny, coupled with my autism, left me in a socially and internally undeveloped state. Deep dissociation for long periods, starting very early.
I've come to accept all that, now. It is just another part of who I am.
The difference is, I no longer let it totally rule or define me.
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Especially when I go so drastically far out of my way to have it turn out the opposite of that.
But all in all, your words most certainly ring true...especially about satya being the most "well adjusted" of us all.
Hell this is indicated by the fact that he's been talking to Smith for much less time than me, or anyone else here, and he already got a "just kidding" out of her! SCANDALOUS!
*shrugs*
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Awesome song! 
The way I see it, as long as you are alright with yourself as you are,fort, don't worry about how I or anyone else judges you. |
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PNG sez to Fort
The way I see it, as long as you are alright with yourself as you are,fort, don't worry about how I or anyone else judges you.
ditto...(that's one of the perks of being well adjusted and "cool", i get to use the word ditto with authority)
PNG to Satya
Soooo... are you cool enough to recognize the inevitability of our awesomely cool friendship??
PNG- as long as you don't turn out to be Anne Streiber in Forum drag. LOL. Poor woman, i don't why i pick on her, maybe it's the really bad mens toupe or her bizarre new agey diary entries but she gives me the creeps too. With that said, i think the inevitability of our awesomely cool friendship is awesomely cool.
And i would like to extend the same invitation of friendship to Q101, DCR and naturally to Smith but i'm a realist, i don't expect Q101 and DCR to accept my invitation. LOL
Smith
do you have a butterfly tattoo? Would a super secret black ops project do something so outlandishly dumb like branding their victims like cattle?
I read that at Rigorous Intuition, it sounds like BS to me.
btw, your posts there are amazing...i have another 20 pages to go.
Where else can i find your stuff? Hopefully, when i'm done catching up with your past, i'll have some intelligent questions to throw at ya in the future.
I met a 30 something... super smart but emotionally disturbed (MPD) woman this summer , who has contact with Hybrids and UFO's and who was sexually abused by her father...i was wondering if she could be a Monarch child
You, me and God makes three....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbBwAnVeGcs&feature=related
PS. correct me if i'm wrong but "well adjusted" people wouldn't find the need to post a signature boasting of their well adjustedness as i did, I don't want to poop on your parade PNG or come off ungracious concerning your kind remarks, it's just a thought. lol |
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Where didya hear that?
I don't know about sickly in the physical sense... my guess it's the Meditation thing, he's probably going to concentrate all his efforts and energy communicating with his dear and dangerous friends.
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I miss my dear and dangerous friends. I miss those days of the very highest adventure, the sheer thrill that would come over me when, a mile or so back in the woods in the dead of night, I would see the quick, darting movement and then the terrible eyes. Then I would sit down on the ground, and open my swooning, terrified mind as best I could, and there would be wonder.
I miss my life with her. The various things we tried, in our effort to tame each to the other. We could not be face to face for more than a few seconds, so she took to riding on my back. It was the only way we could embrace without me getting scared and her suffering grave anguish because of my fear. So we would stay like that, with her little soft body clasped around me from behind—soft, but with bones like iron and a grip of steel. We were sensually repellent to each other, but we made romance in our hearts, anyway, and if in time they do emerge more into the life of man, this is how it will be.
It will be so hard. They’re bad, never doubt it. They sin and fail and are weak and venial. They can be murderously indifferent when they’re concentrating on an important objective. They do not find us nearly as important as we find ourselves, and they can therefore be cruel in the pursuit of their goals. But when you connect with them, the rewards are very, very great. Stupendous, actually. Beyond measure.
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| Personanongrata wrote: |
I think Fort's dissociative tendencies are due to his wanting to be all things to all people, which creates inner psychic turmoil as he self-invalidates, thus producing a feedback loop of quiet rage that he then further dissociates from.
He should try being a dickhead sometime, as the situation merits it, according to his own judgment, which I think is sound enough.
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I think that's a pretty fair assessment, PNG. |
Please, I hope you didn't interpret it as a negative judgment of you as a whole person. I intended it to be as honest as I could perceive, yet humorous & caring. I didn't intend it to cause you to feel bad about yourself.
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| Only problem is, I have a desperate need to BE all things to all people. When I see a part of them that reminds me of a *cough* part of me, I feel it is that way "for a reason", and that "someone else" is charging me with this task....compelled. Probably a load of bunk, eh? |
No, not bunk.
It's called empathy. It means you're human. That's a good thing.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to please others/wanting to be liked, per se, but it is not healthy for you to do so to such a great extent that it causes your self problems, as seems to be the case.
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My problem with being a dickhead (and satya has seen me on the verge of this) is that even when im pissed I still apologize for anything I say that could be seen as disrespectful.
I think that's why it bothers me so much when I really do try to be fair to all parties yet there is always at least ONE person (or party) who refuses to accept my universal respect of them, and rather would see us as enemies. I hate to be an enemy. |
I understand very well. I don't like it when people dislike me, either. I have always had a natural, loving affinity for others. I see their plights as my plights, and when they succeed, I experience joy. It has caused me great pain, as well. From childhood, I was highly empathetic, but grew up under irrational cruelty and domineering. I was not often allowed to do any of the "normal" things, such as have friends, or laugh, and such. I was in a near-constant flight-or-fight state of mind. Since I was a helpless child, and at the mercy of adults who I loved, I couldn't exactly do either. The tyranny, coupled with my autism, left me in a socially and internally undeveloped state. Deep dissociation for long periods, starting very early.
I've come to accept all that, now. It is just another part of who I am.
The difference is, I no longer let it totally rule or define me.
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Especially when I go so drastically far out of my way to have it turn out the opposite of that.
But all in all, your words most certainly ring true...especially about satya being the most "well adjusted" of us all.
Hell this is indicated by the fact that he's been talking to Smith for much less time than me, or anyone else here, and he already got a "just kidding" out of her! SCANDALOUS!
*shrugs*
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdCfcjmxouo |
Awesome song!
The way I see it, as long as you are alright with yourself as you are,fort, don't worry about how I or anyone else judges you. |
Nope, didn't perceive it as negative at all my friend. Thank you for those insights. |
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