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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace |
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I thought I would add this for those interested. It'll start a war, I am sure. But this really is excellent if you stop, and think about it.
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The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace
What must our enemies be thinking?
By JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIROArticle
Earlier this year, 12,000 people in San Francisco signed a petition in support of a proposition on a local ballot to rename an Oceanside sewage plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president.
APAccording to recent Gallup polls, the president's average approval rating is below 30% -- down from his 90% approval in the wake of 9/11. Mr. Bush has endured relentless attacks from the left while facing abandonment from the right.
This is the price Mr. Bush is paying for trying to work with both Democrats and Republicans. During his 2004 victory speech, the president reached out to voters who supported his opponent, John Kerry, and said, "Today, I want to speak to every person who voted for my opponent. To make this nation stronger and better, I will need your support, and I will work to earn it. I will do all I can do to deserve your trust."
Those bipartisan efforts have been met with crushing resistance from both political parties.
The president's original Supreme Court choice of Harriet Miers alarmed Republicans, while his final nomination of Samuel Alito angered Democrats. His solutions to reform the immigration system alienated traditional conservatives, while his refusal to retreat in Iraq has enraged liberals who have unrealistic expectations about the challenges we face there.
It seems that no matter what Mr. Bush does, he is blamed for everything. He remains despised by the left while continuously disappointing the right.
Yet it should seem obvious that many of our country's current problems either existed long before Mr. Bush ever came to office, or are beyond his control. Perhaps if Americans stopped being so divisive, and congressional leaders came together to work with the president on some of these problems, he would actually have had a fighting chance of solving them.
Like the president said in his 2004 victory speech, "We have one country, one Constitution and one future that binds us. And when we come together and work together, there is no limit to the greatness of America."
To be sure, Mr. Bush is not completely alone. His low approval ratings put him in the good company of former Democratic President Harry S. Truman, whose own approval rating sank to 22% shortly before he left office. Despite Mr. Truman's low numbers, a 2005 Wall Street Journal poll found that he was ranked the seventh most popular president in history.
Just as Americans have gained perspective on how challenging Truman's presidency was in the wake of World War II, our country will recognize the hardship President Bush faced these past eight years -- and how extraordinary it was that he accomplished what he did in the wake of the September 11 attacks.
The treatment President Bush has received from this country is nothing less than a disgrace. The attacks launched against him have been cruel and slanderous, proving to the world what little character and resolve we have. The president is not to blame for all these problems. He never lost faith in America or her people, and has tried his hardest to continue leading our nation during a very difficult time.
Our failure to stand by the one person who continued to stand by us has not gone unnoticed by our enemies. It has shown to the world how disloyal we can be when our president needed loyalty -- a shameful display of arrogance and weakness that will haunt this nation long after Mr. Bush has left the White House.
Mr. Shapiro is an investigative reporter and lawyer who previously interned with John F. Kerry's legal team during the presidential election in 2004.
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| Bush could have rehearsed his speeches and Q & A PA a bit better since being in,still i think the Iraq situation was the best decision he ever made... |
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| Bush's treatment of the world has been a disgrace. |
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| Our failure to stand by the one person who continued to stand by us has not gone unnoticed by our enemies. It has shown to the world how disloyal we can be when our president needed loyalty -- a shameful display of arrogance and weakness that will haunt this nation long after Mr. Bush has left the White House. |
That statement can just piss off.
He is the one along with Dick Shotgun Cheney that made the world a wonderfull misreable planet to live in. |
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| I'm not sure having a sewage treatment plant named after someone is a disgrace. The plants serve an incredible important function in providing drinking water especially in places like Chicago. It might be too much of an honor to give to Bush II after his easing of EPA rules on water which allowed more pollutants into the drinking supply. |
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If Bush would have passed a sweeping Gay rights bill, Aquarian and Saturos would be saying he was the greatest Preisident in History.
It is not the fact people critisized Bush, it is the manner and way people like you Aquarian, CG, and a host of others have done it. Saturos you are not an American so you are free to say what you wish, but Americans should at least hold themselves to a standard that doesn't dishonor the office of the Presidency, the Country, and other Americans.
Naming a sewage plant after him, and getting 12,000 people to sign it, only shows the level of insanity liberals have stooped to, and from the capital of the gay lifestyle and inventers of "puke In's". Aquarian, you demand respect from the world, but your people from your lifesytle spearhead this vile and boundryless lack of respect for decency. You radiate the same attitudes. This is the hometown of Speaker of the house Nancy Polosi, it is the place Johnny Taliban came from, and the home of Cindy Sheehan. This is the standard you all felt was acceptable to disparage the President of the United States, regardless of actual proof of anything.
Those same people always in the same breathe are telling you what their rights are in the process. The know that Constitution forward and backwards about their Freedom of Speech than forget about all the other parts. Interresting that Aquarian and CG both have stated their intentions with this new President already, and have already taken the same path as they did with Bush. Seems you are proving no choice would satisfy you and the only thing that does is continuing with your lies and anti-American boloney.
Thats your right under the Constitution. Too bad they took your Mother's right to wash you mouth out with soap along time ago. I guess when we don't gt our own way its acceptable the lay down on the ground and just have a tantrum, puke on the streets, tell slanderous and outrageous lies, rumors, and engage in a brazen character assasintation that has been unpresidented. True Americans, I'm sure you will remind us!  |
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, but we named two **it pumps after queen Victoria and Prince Albert. A little different to a sewage plant but, given who they were and the time they were in, it’s pretty much the same. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:45 am Post subject: |
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OK, here's the thing about proof. We have no proof that gravity behalves the way we think it does. We have no proof that "For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction" We have no proof that the Al Gore lost the election, we have no proof that we landed on the moon...
So, just because there is no proof, does not, by any stretch of the imagination, mean that something is false as clearly stated above.
What we do have for all of those things is evidence.
Anyways, continue with the debate, just wanted to make that one point.
I made another post in Bloodstones thread about my opinion on the matter, I'm sure it's not far down the page by now, so anyone interested it's there. I just don't want to re-write everything. |
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Well, if I'm wrong about Bush (and I don't think I am) then I am sorry, and really do feel sorry for the guy from the standpoint of him being completely forsaken by his own. That, no matter the character of an individual, would be an extremely hard thing to take.
I wish, that I could have a moment in Mr Bush's thoughts so that I could retrieve the truth and not have to blindly pick a side, but since that isn't possible, I do have to blindly choose a side. And the side that I see, is opposing him. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps I'm right, I dunno.
I will say however, that he does have a strong character and did his best to never get emotional, during what would be an emotionally trying set of circumstances. |
that the one? |
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Yes, that'd be the one.
Now get outta here, your making me look lazy.  |
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Yes, that'd be the one.
Now get outta here, your making me look lazy.  |
If our minds think the same, our bodies must be the same as well.
It’s called “perfect design” should spread to the rest of the world soon. |
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| One thing I will contribute to the argument that I bet will surprise a few people is the fact that I do agree that the slander campaigns have been a bit ridiculous. I don't believe Bush to truly be a moron, he is illiterate and he's not a very good speaker, and that is the source of the "Bush is an idiot" kind of remark, not actual stupidity. And that's what I mean when I say it must have been brutally difficult to not show emotions when you have so many people that you are serving turn their back on you and resort to school yard insults and post all the silly things he does on the internet for millions of people to view and laugh at. I mean most of the stuff (obviously) is actually funny. But regardless. I can at least respect that he didn't let out that it bugged him. Even though I am certain that it did. |
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All the usual empty of substance flag waving malarki from you G2.
Bush supposedly had a 5 billion dollar surplus when he took office. And I say supposedly because I never believed it when they said it. And it has come out that those numbers were misleading. It has since been learned that Clinton was totally raping social security so it was all BS to begin with.
Now in Bush's time in office he has run up a 10 Trillion Dollar deficit. And our economy is on the verge of total colapse. Unemployment has been steadily rising, as have housing forclosures.
Then we have 9/11, No Bin Laden captured, but we did manage to kill a million people while not finding him. Not to mention many thousands of our own sons and daughters.
He made my America, into the focking Homeland, a police state bent on torture and slaughter in the name of Freedom!
I guess you are alright with all that G2, I'm not, I'm not by a damned site!
I am ashamed to be American anymore! This is not the kind of America I want to leave to my children and grandchildren.
Hell I have barely scratched the surface of the many crimes both Bush and his cabinet are responsible for,and yet he will ride into the sunset with his billions of dollars he made off of these wars. Because Americans like you refuse to face reality.
Don't wave the flag at me G2 It belongs to those that have defended it, not those that wear it as a cape against all allegations. |
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LOL Bush or any like him couldn't care less what people think about them. They collectively laugh at sheep personality's that some of you display. And right so...it's not their fault that people are stupid and ignorant. He is a puppet doing his bidding for banking masters upcoming new world empire. He will get his reward and live happy ever after on his ranch smoking cigars and sipping glen moray.
NO REALLY! I think he turns in his sleep and is restless because some people don't like him since his a mass murderer, traitor, liar etc. etc. ...yep that must be it.... cant be any other way.  |
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Obama is just another puppet in the game. The proof is in his pick of the traitor Emanuel as his Chief of Staff.
I suspect in the next two years Obama is going to make Bush look good.
Hopefully we can get enough republicans, well real republicans, not neo-cons, back into the Senate and Congress to help combat this. |
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