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Questioner101
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 Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:16 am Post subject: Idea on how to "control" Somali Pirates.... |
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Send a "dummy" oil tanker into the region, but instead of it's hold filled with oil....it would be filled with soldiers...ready to disable the pirates.
Send several so they never know which tanker is the "dummy" and which isn't.
Come on..this isn't brain surgery!!! It wouldn't cost those oil companies that much to protect their investments.....since they made huge profits last summer.
(Unless of course, they're paying the pirates to pirate, to raise prices.....) |
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| Piracy thrives where economic and social instability exist. The pirates exist because of the instability. Eliminate the instability and the piracy goes away. Luckilly piracy has very weak spot, in that it is profit driven occupation, so providing the pirates and the people with more lucrative work stimulates the economy and causes the pirates to go legit. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Terrorists from the great Kingdom have declared war on the Somali Pirates and they have taken the invitation fully. Seems they are more ally than foe now. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Kill them, like the USA did to the Barbary Pirates. We formed our Navy and kicked their mooooooooooohamet loving asses so they could meet their heathen god. |
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Well I think they're just mixed-up kids who need a little counselling.
I blame the parents. I bet they didn't buy nice shiny toys for those disturbed men when they were children. So what else could they have expected.
Also. I think they were brought up in a highly male-dominated environment, and as it is women who are the more moral of the sexes, these poor kids missed-out bigtime.
What would I do? First I'd embrace them warmly (Yes! Hug them close). I want them to let the frustrations fade away so they can become McDonalds burger-flippers or some other respectable profession.
They'll need a lot of financial support while going through the transition between being pirates and 'sensitive' human beings. I think we should invite them all over to the US or Britain and then give them nice homes and cars c/o the taxpayer.
Of course their old habits might be difficult to break, so the law will have to be 'understanding' when they start kcking people's heads in and stealing stuff again. I think the victims of Somali pirate violence are really the guilty party. White people are all bastards and deserve to be punished because they might have had people who were their friends who were the same colour who didn't like White people or something.
Hell! Why don't we just give them the US and Britain! The Whites who are left can be their slaves so they can at least enjoy some of their lives after the White world neglected them.
Send cash! Give these needy people everything you can. Dig deep into your pockets and try to sponsor one or two or bring one home.
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| I still think its a matter of economics. FInd the pirates an easier more lucrative way less dangerous of making money and holding onto some kind of power and they'll give up piracy. After all the reason they are [pirates is for the money and because its easier for them. |
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| Yes exactly Aqua, Somalia is hurting for cash, food, work, medicine, electricity, clothes, water and housing. It's really actually no wonder they are taking up piracy. |
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| If they weren't a backwards ass BT country they could have an economy, but nooooooooo. islami runs their lives of misery and destitution of character and home. |
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| I'm sure the unarmed civilians made that decision for themselves, didn't they? |
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| If they weren't a backwards ass BT country they could have an economy, but nooooooooo. islami runs their lives of misery and destitution of character and home. |
Well then Jaacko, why doesn't your country invade them and show them the error of their ways? ... oh ... wait, they don't have any resources you want to control and plunder. I guess it's Ixnay on the invasionay then. |
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I've changed my mind. If they can't be re-trained to only attack ZOG ships then they should all be shot.
Their ships should be reused if poss, but if they are riddled with Somalis then sink them.
And their homes and families and villages should be razed and terminated. |
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| ninor wrote: |
| *snip* why doesn't your country invade them and show them the error of their ways? ... oh ... wait, they don't have any resources you want to control and plunder. I guess it's Ixnay on the invasionay then. |
It's YOUR turn to invade...they have oil, but don't tell any of the 64 Canadian oil companies about that...SHHHH...just enjoy a nice, plump Somali banana.
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I think the best thing to do in this case is to financially back a certain militia within somalia and supply them with kick ass weapons to wage war against the pirates, and then when the militia finally defeats the pirates and no more ships are being hijacked we overthrow the current leaders in power at the moment in somalia and replace them with the kick ass militia we created.
I dont think this has been done before, or has it?  |
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I think the best thing to do in this case is to financially back a certain militia within somalia and supply them with kick ass weapons to wage war against the pirates, and then when the militia finally defeats the pirates and no more ships are being hijacked we overthrow the current leaders in power at the moment in somalia and replace them with the kick ass militia we created.
I dont think this has been done before, or has it? |
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Actually if the USA was to support any violence in Somalia it would be prudent to back the Pirates and turn them against Al-Qaeda in Somalia. Simply put eventually the two groups will clash because the Piracy is economically oriented and Al-Qaeda is more of a religious fanaticism, they are only allies as long as they share a common enemy, if that enemy becomes one (Pirates) of their friends they will turn on each other. The Pirates get the upperhand because they stimulate the economy, thus popular support will gravitate towards them (there is also speculation they were originally a local coast guard protecting local fishing. In East Africa fishing rights are a major issue so this means more popular support). The result is we cannot afford to alienate the Pirates, we must instead win them to our side. However I think with the right incentives & support we can win over these brigands without arming them, and draw support away from Al-Qaeda's terrorists.
If we do arm them we may have to do some legal wranggling but issuing them Letters of Marque to convert them to privateers against Al-Qaeda may be an incentive. |
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