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AbuMubarak
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my first post here, i found this place looking for some information on google, and i saw this forum, looks pretty interesting, i havent finished looking thru it yet
but as my introduction, i would like to post a link to a "democracy now" video i saw earlier this week, pretty interesting stuff
Click here to watch an interview
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2004/dec/video/dnB20041231a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=
or just read this
Economic hitman visits South Hadley
by Ethan Burke, Collegian Staff
March 22, 2005
http://www.dailycollegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/03/22/4240ece3b1079
"Economic hit men are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development and other foreign 'aid' organizations into the coffers of huge corporations and the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources. Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex and murder. They play a game as old as empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization."
"I should know; I was an EHM." - John Perkins, in his book "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man." |
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tofu_kronos
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Welcome to the vault i hope you enjoy your stay here AbuMubarak.
Salaam maleikum. |
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nomadic_rebel
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Welcome, this site is awesome, i think you will enjoy it.
What are your theories on exterreatrials and their activities, and UFOs?
I'm just interested. |
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_________________ Find the truth destroy the lie. I am the nomadic rebel. They cannot catch me. They cannot find me.
To them I don't exist. But I am out there, looking, listening, thinking, acting, plotting..waiting. |
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wa alaykumus salaam, akhi
my thoughts on extraterrestrials?
i have none, whether they exist or not, does not change the fact that we were not alive, we now have life, and we will die, and if people can believe in extraterrestrials, i see believing in a supreme being as being much more plausible
thats enough of religion
what did you think of that video on Economic Hit Men? |
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You have an interesting site, and can't the supreme being not been an alien from an other world isn't that possible because in my opinion it is.
They do say god comes from the heavens, and in ancient times people where gullible so they could be mistaken and thought that he lituraly came from the heaven instead of space. |
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AbuMubarak
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: |
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tofu
logically speaking, we all know that all of creation didnt form from some haphazard bang
you would have a better chance of a tornado hitting a junkyard and leaving a brand new rolls royce, then for a big bang to have orchestrated not only the astronomical signs, but even cellular structure and everything in between
as far as aliens? you mean people from out of space came, designed this, then left? or are they watching from afar?
is it one group of aliens, or maybe a team of them, or maybe just one smart guy? |
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:02 am Post subject: |
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tofu
logically speaking, we all know that all of creation didnt form from some haphazard bang
you would have a better chance of a tornado hitting a junkyard and leaving a brand new rolls royce, then for a big bang to have orchestrated not only the astronomical signs, but even cellular structure and everything in between
as far as aliens? you mean people from out of space came, designed this, then left? or are they watching from afar?
is it one group of aliens, or maybe a team of them, or maybe just one smart guy? |
A sceptic i like that.
First of all i don't believe in a spiritual god, i do believe in a higher lifeform.
And the bigbang well there where multiple bigbangs after all there's no end and no beginning and the universe has no borders.
Next thing aliens have visit this planet and i believe there still here.
And for the koran and the bible i do respect other religions but it's just history and the timeline of the books don't fit the timeline of the earth from the monent of creation. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:10 am Post subject: |
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whoa
i didnt think i would be having a theological discussion on this forum, i kinda liked the politics when i skimmed thru it
but hey, its the internet
tofu, how exactly do you define this HIGHER FORM? again i ask, is it a team of aliens, maybe a summit of different aliens who came together to design everything? are we their servants, or just some curious hobby of theirs?
as far as aliens still being here, i may not like michael jackson, but I WILL NOT CALL HIM AN ALIEN |
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:13 am Post subject: |
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thanks MIB, 'preciate it |
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| tofu, how exactly do you define this HIGHER FORM? again i ask, is it a team of aliens, maybe a summit of different aliens who came together to design everything? are we their servants, or just some curious hobby of theirs? |
Why can't we just be in control of it ? We always come over as the slaves. If we are indeed a hobby, they can't hide themselfs like that, and there wil be an uprise and eventually an overthrown of power. IF what you say is true that is ofc.
I found a much easier way for understanding how life began.
There is no higher being, there is no God. There is just us, space and everything in it. How it came to be is just a guessing game to us at this point. Anything can be (un)true. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| AbuMubarak wrote: |
whoa
i didnt think i would be having a theological discussion on this forum, i kinda liked the politics when i skimmed thru it
but hey, its the internet
tofu, how exactly do you define this HIGHER FORM? again i ask, is it a team of aliens, maybe a summit of different aliens who came together to design everything? are we their servants, or just some curious hobby of theirs?
as far as aliens still being here, i may not like michael jackson, but I WILL NOT CALL HIM AN ALIEN |
A team of aliens who geneticly engineered us in there image to slowly colonise this planet. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| tofu_kronos wrote: |
| AbuMubarak wrote: |
whoa
i didnt think i would be having a theological discussion on this forum, i kinda liked the politics when i skimmed thru it
but hey, its the internet
tofu, how exactly do you define this HIGHER FORM? again i ask, is it a team of aliens, maybe a summit of different aliens who came together to design everything? are we their servants, or just some curious hobby of theirs?
as far as aliens still being here, i may not like michael jackson, but I WILL NOT CALL HIM AN ALIEN |
A team of aliens who geneticly engineered us in there image to slowly colonise this planet. |
So they went trough the process of creating a whole universe with the only intend to colonise it ?
No offense but why ? Why would anyone wanna work backwards like that.
You create a wordl, why colonise your own creation ? The lifeform on that planet, the first ones would naturally be the offspring / creation of the creators. |
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| MIB wrote: |
| tofu_kronos wrote: |
| AbuMubarak wrote: |
whoa
i didnt think i would be having a theological discussion on this forum, i kinda liked the politics when i skimmed thru it
but hey, its the internet
tofu, how exactly do you define this HIGHER FORM? again i ask, is it a team of aliens, maybe a summit of different aliens who came together to design everything? are we their servants, or just some curious hobby of theirs?
as far as aliens still being here, i may not like michael jackson, but I WILL NOT CALL HIM AN ALIEN |
A team of aliens who geneticly engineered us in there image to slowly colonise this planet. |
So they went trough the process of creating a whole universe with the only intend to colonise it ?
No offense but why ? Why would anyone wanna work backwards like that.
You create a wordl, why colonise your own creation ? The lifeform on that planet, the first ones would naturally be the offspring / creation of the creators. |
The universe was already there they just engineered us. |
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Sorry but I don't believe a single thing of that.
It seems these days to many things are being linked to aliens and crap.
It almost seems like a habbit. Want to make something cool, blame it on the aliens... |
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