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Just found this clip, it looked interesting, can't say I've ever seen this design of a seaplane before.
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With the war of words with Iran already launched, if not an actual armed confrontation, there seem to be almost daily demos of Iran's military power. Introducing Iran's shoulder-launched Misagh 1, her surface-to-sea Kowsar missile and her "Flying Boats."
Clip courtesy of MEMRI where a full transcript and newsletter signup are available.
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) explores the Middle East through its media. MEMRI provides timely translations of Arabic and Farsi media, as well as original analysis of political, ideological, intellectual, social, cultural, and religious trends in the region. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| These type of ''flying boats'' use what is known as ''surface effect'' by flying at low altitudes over the water. The Russians first developed them, & they use large versions as high speed troop transports & ferrys in the Black Sea. |
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| can they even travel that far or quickly for that matter? Or capable of greater movement then a typical seaplane? Otherwise I wouldn't see much use unless it's to kamakazi a ship or lack of funding for airports. |
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| Carriars have systems to detect anything within 100 miles. If they possible got within a mile or so, than they could lay down firepower that nothing could survive, short of a miracle. Like Iraq, they will drastically underestimate the firepower of the US fleet. |
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| can they even travel that far or quickly for that matter? Or capable of greater movement then a typical seaplane? Otherwise I wouldn't see much use unless it's to kamakazi a ship or lack of funding for airports. |
I don't have any real idea of what the capabilities of the Iranian version of this aircraft might be, but the Soviets originally developed this design as a high-speed, over-the-water,heavy transport for troops & equipment. It's actually turned out to be more usefull as a civilian ferry. |
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Yeah I think the term is w.i.g or wing in ground effect
I found this
Ever since the beginning of manned flight pilots have experienced something strange when landing an aircraft. Just before touchdown it suddenly feels like the aircraft just does not want to go lower. It just wants to go on and on due to the air that is trapped between the wing and the runway, forming an air cushion. The air cushion is best felt in low wing aircraft with large wing areas. This phenomenon is called (aerodynamic) ground effect. The Wright brothers probably have not even flown out of ground effect in their early flights, they benefitted from ground effect without even knowing it existed.
Some of the soviet troop carriers are MASSIVE you can find pics on this sight , well worth a dig here's the link 
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these are the ones I mean
Pretty cool to deck one out as a mobile home |
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| Pretty cool to deck one out as a mobile home |
You wouldn't even need to install central air, just use that big ass propeller as a fan  |
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| Don't need a shower stall either, just dangle below the plane in a steel cage. If you are a regular bidet user, just bend over in the cage, butt facing toward the front of the plane, of course. |
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| Don't need a shower stall either, just dangle below the plane in a steel cage. If you are a regular bidet user, just bend over in the cage, butt facing toward the front of the plane, of course. |
I don't think I would ever want to be naked anywhere near those large spinning blades
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Idiot, you'll be safe in a steel cage. Nothing can hurt you.
Haven't you seen the shark attack shows? Those guys never get into trouble in those impervious steel cages.
Now stop messing me up, I want to go to bed with my name on every forum. |
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I'm Laughing. The reporter claims the highly adavanced "flying boat" has a velocity exceeding 100 knots, That's 115mph.
Seriously Iran who are you kidding? An old Grumman G-21 Goose (1st Flight 1937) has a speed of 184mph @ 5000 feet. Or should the Convair XF2Y Sea Dart (1st flight 1956) come into play at 825 mph. Come on it looks nice bit I've seen better Iranian jets designs than that. |
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| If thats how the build trains, planes and boats, I shutter to think how their nuclear power plants will be built. They may outdo the Kursk and Chernobol in pisspoor designs. |
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| If thats how the build trains, planes and boats, I shutter to think how their nuclear power plants will be built. They may outdo the Kursk and Chernobol in pisspoor designs. |
America is the best race
The seaplanes can easily be destroyed by a single gatling gun.....
america invented the gatling gun...
ack ack ack and boom bang goes your seaplane...
what a joke...
arabs are a joke.
America is the most advanced technological race on the planet...
Arabs are the most primitive backward race on the planet...
They have lost every war...
Arabs have invented zero in the last 500 years ....
A small country like isreal defeated 5 attacking arab countrys...proving arabs are very easy to defeat...
Isalam is anti progress...anti humanitarian values...anti civilisation...
arabs want to go back to medievil times so they can behead people...
we must stop these barbarians ...
they are intolerent of different viewpoints and hate democracy....
they are very lazy and cant even operate simple machines...
they need americans to operate the oil wells...
when the oil runs out they will have to live in tents and ride on camels and starve.they will beg us for food aid. |
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I've a great respect for foreign technology, while propaganda in the USA made Japanese designs of WWII and and Russian designs of the Cold War seem inferior many were not, and if they had been it would have not been necessary to improve our own designs. However a seaplane is still a seaplane even if it is called a flying boat and they have been around since the 1930s.
This new sea plane while it may be effective as a local coastal patrol craft against pirates, small aircraft , and attack helicopters it is at a severe disadvantage in the face of any threat aircraft carrier from WWII to today. It's not a matter of propaganda, it's a matter of combat range, speed, maueverbility, the necessary landing and takeoff conditions for seaplanes, and the weapons systems and their auxilliaries being carried.
Helicopters don't take out F-18 Hornets, but MiG-17s can. Seaplanes at the speeds this one can reach are in the same pickle as helicopter, unless they arm them with AIM-120 AMRAAMs equivelents and the necessary support to target and fire them effectively the platform becomes a sitting duck. Only stupid over cocky fighter jocks are going to engage in a turning fight with a lightly armed seaplane, and then there is a chance they will lose to a combat experienced pilot but less to the unexperienced. I know of an instance where F-15s lost to F-86s once because of such cockiness (evebn though they were prewarned what would happen) in a wargame but the Sabre pilots were old hands at ACM and could do this.
Iran does have some very good indiginous designs and derivatives just not this one. |
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