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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Hair of the Alien Reply with quote
 
Have any of you ever heard of Bill Chalker and Peter Khoury??

Bill a scientist and Peter an Abductee have performed DNA PCR techinques on an alledged hair samples found on Peter after a morning encounter at his home.

Part of the story below..

DNA PCR Hair Sample

Peter's first conscience UFO Abduction experience was in 1988. Peter has a mark on his head where a needle was inserted by the beings.

He also has a scoop mark on his right leg where a sample was taken.

Peter Khoury's 1992 Abduction Experience which involved two alien females, a blonde and an Asian, became the world's first UFO abduction case with biological evidence.

From Peters site which I maintain for him.

The world's first DNA PCR investigation of biological evidence from an alien abduction.
By Bill Chalker/ Anomaly Physical Evidence Group ( APEG ). Copyright 2001-Bill Chalker/APEG Trust

A Sydney, Australia abduction experience from 1992, with biological evidence, became the subject of the world's first DNA PCR investigation, yielding intriguing results that have suggested fascinating new lines of investigation and speculation. Dr Kary Mullis received the Noble Prize in chemistry for his discovery of the PCR technique.

Mullis is unique amongst Noble laureates in claiming that he may have had an alien abduction experience. He confirmed this to me and indicated others had similar experiences at his northern Californian cabin.

Born in 1964, in Lebanon, Peter Khoury migrated to Australia in 1973. He met his future wife while at school, Vivian in 1981, marrying in 1990. They have 2 children. What might be Peter's first encounter with a UFO occurred in Lebanon in the summer of 1971 at age 7. He and seven other children had gone up onto the rooftop of his neighbor's house to play.

Peter was the last one to walk through a heavy door that leads onto the roof. He then saw all his friends "frozen" like statues in front of him, while a silent egg-shaped craft hovered above. All eight children later found themselves on the ground floor after some time had elapsed, with no memory of the intervening period.

In Sydney during February 1988, Peter & Vivian saw a strange light doing extraordinary movements in conjunction with a beam of light effect. The light source would appear at two places simultaneously, the original light source would create a light beam that in turn produced an image of the object in two distinct places at one time.

A frightening and life changing alien abduction experience occurred on July 12, 1988. Khoury had lay on a bed and was overwhelmed by paralysis. A number of beings became apparent around him.

One of them, a tall thin golden yellow coloured being, with large black eyes, inserted a long needle like object onto the side of his head. Khoury experienced a blackout. He regained consciousness with a start and rushed into the adjoining room where he found other family members in a "switched-off" state.

Rousing them, Khoury found that while they thought only 10 minutes had passed, in reality it seemed between 1 to 2 hours had passed. An injury to his head was verified.

At that time Peter Khoury had no real context to anchor his disturbing experience. Eventually he became aware of abduction experiences and entered the UFO field to initially understand what happened to him. Eventually frustrated with the problems and politics that plagued his association with ufology he formed a support group- the UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA ) during April, 1993.

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Despite trying to focus on supporting other's, Peter Khoury found that strange experiences had continued for him. In retrospect, the most striking one occurred on July 23, 1992, according to diary entries. He had been recovering from head injuries received in a job site assault (he worked in the building industry in his own cement rendering business).

At about 7 am, having returned to his Sydney suburban home from the train station, after dropping off his wife, Khoury felt unwell and lay down on the bed to sleep. He woke with a start sometime later, becoming aware of something alighting on the bed. He was shocked to see two strange women kneeling on the end of his bed.

Both were naked.

One appeared Nordic and the other Asian. Aspects of their appearance were quite odd. The Nordic female had a very elongated face and a sharply pointed chin. Her eyes appeared to be blue and 2 to 3 times larger than normal. She had very fine wispy blonde hair that seemed to be oddly blown up. Her skin colour was quite light.

The dark brown skinned Asian looking woman seemed to have almost completely black eyes. Her hair was black and set in a firm page-boy style.

Although no normal communication occurred, the Nordic woman seemed to be in charge and Khoury got the impression she was giving the Asian looking woman some sort of instruction. What followed was quite disorientating for Khoury. The Nordic woman, who seemed to be over 6 feet tall and apparently very strong, reached forward and pulled Khoury's head to her breast. He resisted, trying to pull away.

She did this 3 times. Finally Khoury, trying to cope with the shock and disorientating nature of this experience, bit on her nipple apparently swallowing a piece from it. The Nordic woman, although seemingly confused, did not react with any pain and nor was there any sign of blood. She seemed to convey to the other woman that this was not the way things were supposed to happen. Khoury was overcome with a coughing fit.

Moments later, looking up again, he found that both woman had vanished.

The coughing caused Khoury to get a drink of water, moments later he went to the bathroom to urinate, he found it very painful to do so, due to, it turned out, some very fine blonde hair wrapped tightly under his foreskin.

Khoury removed the hair and had the foresight to place it in a plastic sachet bag with a seal.

He did that because he felt there was no way it should be there. It was unlike his wife's hair. Khoury concluded that something extraordinary bizarre had just occurred and linked the 2 pieces of thin hair (about 10-12 cm & 6-8 cm long) to the strange tall, blonde haired Nordic looking woman.

Even though Vivian had been very supportive of him about his 1988 abduction experience, Peter refrained from telling her what occurred for about 2 weeks. She accepted it far better than Peter did, telling him it was something he has no control over and they would deal with it as best as they could.

Like many other abductees Peter Khoury has had a number of experiences. During November, 1996, while in bed with Vivian beside him asleep, he felt an energy presence intruding into the room. He opened his eyes. He saw what seemed to be several small hooded figures (similar to his 1988 experience) appearing to come through the mirror.

As they came closer Peter experienced paralysis and felt he was being floated horizontally feet first towards the mirror.

Touching the surface of the mirror with his feet felt like he was going into water, like a change of density, not something solid. Khoury felt a sense of electrical static buzzing right through his body. He watched as the reflection of his head approached his face. As soon as they touched, he blacked out. He did not remember anything else other than waking up in the bed again.

There were other episodes in about 1994 or early 1995 involving a light burst or sound of an explosion, this being witnessed in part by Vivian.

On another occasion he felt a "pins and needles" paralysis developing.

He tried to wake Vivian. He was eventually after great difficulty able to touch her. She woke up and simultaneously it was "like somebody ripped the sheets of him". Peter likened it to as if something was sucked out of him. The feeling had been engulfing him and as soon as he touched Vivian the feeling was gone.

Between 1996 and 1999 Khoury is unaware of any experiences.

In 1996, Peter was hypnotically regressed by Pulitzer prize-winning, Harvard psychiatrist John Mack to try to clarify the 1988 experience. Under Mack's regression Peter described being taken into an illuminated room.

He was on a table with one entity above him, speaking to him but with a sound like 50 of them. Peter thought at the time, how was he going to remember what the entity told him. The recollection faded and everything went dark again. That was all that came out in the session.

Peter has had a couple of regression sessions. He is not satisfied with any of the hypnotic recollections and feels more comfortable with the consciously recollected details, such as those of 1988 and 1992.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Hee are some of the details..

The world's first DNA PCR investigation of biological evidence from an alien abduction.
By Bill Chalker/ Anomaly Physical Evidence Group ( APEG ). Copyright 2001-Bill Chalker/APEG Trust

Because of the bizarre and controversial nature of the 1992 episode, Peter was more comfortable describing his 1988 experience. The strange encounter with the 2 unusual woman was discussed and examined in a limited and fragmentary way. It was not until 1996 that I heard from Peter Khoury about the hair sample that had been recovered from what may have been an alien abduction sexual assault case.

By 1998, I began an investigation into the hair sample, when biochemical colleagues agreed to undertake what was the world's first PCR (polymerase Chain Reaction) DNA profiling of biological material implicated in an alien abduction experience.

The analysis confirmed the hair came from someone who was biologically close to normal human genetics, but of an unusual racial type - a rare Chinese Mongoloid type - one of the rarest human lineages known, that lies further from the human mainstream than any other except for African pygmies and Aboriginals.

There was the strange anomaly of it being blonde to clear instead of black, as would be expected from the Asian type mitochondrial DNA. The study concluded, "The most probable donor of the hair must therefore be as (Khoury) claims: a tall blonde female who does not need much colour in her hair or skin, as a form of protection against the sun, Perhaps because she does not require it."

The DNA sequence overlayed was extracted from the hair sample recovered by Khoury (from the cover of the International UFO Reporter (IUR), Spring, 1999) Magnified hair sample showing optical transparency and pronounced mosaic structure.

The original DNA work was done on the shaft of the hair. Fascinating further anomalies on where the mitochondrial DNA testing occurs, namely confirming the rare Chinese type DNA in the shaft and indicating a rare possible Basque/Gaelic type DNA in the root section.

The Hair Root DNA sequence

This was very puzzling and controversial, until a 'Nature Biotechnology" paper appeared in 2000. It revealed recent findings on hair transplanting with previously incompatible hair, using advanced cloning techniques, developed in a possible cure for baldness. We seem to be seeing similar combined or "grafted" DNA in the sample recovered under controversial circumstances by Peter Khoury back in 1992.

Perhaps indicating possible viral resistance. The hair sample seems to show it contains 2 deleted genes for CCR5 protein and no intact gene for normal undeleted CCR5- this CCR5 deletion factor has been implicated in aids resistance.

To keep a very complex story somewhat uncomplicated , what seems to be suggested by the range of findings is possible evidence for advanced DNA techniques and DNA anomalies & findings, for which we are only now discovering or starting to make sense of in mainstream biotechnology.

The nature of these genetic findings has lead to some interesting possible connections with ancient cultures, myths and archaeological finds such as the strange Taklamakan mummies in China (tall European like peoples (Celtic ?), some of whom had blonde hair) and the stories of the female Basque God Mari and the Gaelic Irish tales of the Tuatha da Danann.

The Tuatha tales describe powerful gods with orange or blonde hair and other unusual attributes. While such cultural and mythic connections are fascinating speculations, they provide for an interesting perspective on the many stories of Nordic type beings implicated in UFO abduction and contact cases.

olour ("The Tarim Mummies" by J. Mallory & V. Mair (2000); artist's impression of the blonde haired, blue eyed and fair skinned female being encountered by Peter Khoury in 1992

Mari - the neolithic Goddes of Old Europe and the primary deity in Basque mythology - has many manifestations, including "as a tree that looks like a woman or a tree emitting flames", "a white cloud or rainbow, or a ball of fire in the air", a "sickle of fire, as which she appears crossing the sky" and "seen enveloped in fire, lying down horizontally, moving through the air".

The records from ancient Ireland describe a whole series of invasions. The "Lebor Gabala Erren" ('The book of the Taking of Ireland" or the " book of invasions"), compiled during the 12th century A.D. describes the coming of the mysterious Tuatha de' Danann or Tribe of Danu. They were apparently tall, blond or red-haired strangers, 'expert in the arts of pagan cunning", who supposedly interbred with the locals, while teaching them many kinds of useful skills.

The Lebor Gabala records their dramatic entrance to Ireland as follows: " In this wise they came, in dark clouds from northern islands of the world. They landed on the mountains of Conmaicne Rein in Connachta, and they brought a darkness over the sun for three days and three nights. Gods were their men of arts, and non-gods their husbandmen."

According to the mythic tales the Tuatha de' Danann were advanced enough to arrive in western Ireland (near modern Connacht) by air. They divided into two social classes: "gods as teachers of medicine, smithing, communication or druidry, and "non-gods" as farmers or shepherds.

Although no one knows for certain what the Tuatha looked like, descriptions, such as of their female war-leader Eriu, indicate tall attractive people with pale skin, high foreheads, long red hair and large blue eyes. Other descriptions indicate blonde, golden hair and blue eyes. The blonde haired woman in the 1957 abduction of Antonio Villas Boas also had red body hair (pubic hair).

She seems remarkably like Peter's female visitor and the description of Eriu. If the Tuatha cross-bred with local humans, they would have left hybrid descendants who look somewhat like themselves.

Further focused DNA analyses of biological samples implicated in alleged alien abduction experiences will help determine the reality behind the claims of abductions and the validity of speculation driven by DNA, historical, cultural and mythic connections.

Some limited funding has permitted the purchase of specialized equipment to further this fascinating and groundbreaking work. Funding has permitted a DNA research presence, co-ordinated by APEG, in a friendly laboratory facility.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Ummm..... I am not selling books but I am showing sites I maintain and the friends who own them and the research which I also do.

"Hair" is available in Canada the U.S and Australia...I just posted it as I also thought that as this is a scientist friend of mine and that his team has did dna tests on hair samples that could prove to be the so called "Smoking gun".

Although Bill states that if only we had 100 more of them to test.

I thought people might be interested in the stories in these books on the sites I have designed, as not many of you know that much about what happens here in Australia.

As im not allowed to give links till I am trusted I didnt put the link to the actual sites, (where the books can be ordered) if I did you could read it all yourselves, but until I can post links this is the only way to show you *S*
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: THANK YOU Reply with quote
 
thank you phobos THAT is interesting..
i have heard about this case elsewhere..
not in such detail..
i would like to see books on this subject.
it is an honest way, and the best way to get the info out..
if something of importance is givin away too freely, you get idiots whining and complaning too much, either for more, or proof..
idiots..
(lol... or idiots like me who also want more...lol)
again, THANK you for the info..i can only hope if it ever happens to me, i keep the nipple in my cheek, and don't swallow it...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: library Reply with quote
 
go to one dejarma, and shut up..it's called reading  
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Man, come on there not aliens, well they might be from a nother planet but there came from this one, how hard is it for people to belive there might of been human beingings in our long forgotn past who were as advanced as we are today, they just got it and the rest of us did not.

I mean look at our world today, we are siting here typing at a computer and at the same time there is a nother human on the other side of the planet still liveing in mud huts!

How hard is it to understand?

Time is like a wheel people come on, it rotats and repeats its self. Very Happy

Its a fantastic and great thing if you think about it.
 
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You're correct Newb, there is quite a bit of evidence to support the idea that humans have been around a LOT longer than have, has, and is being taught to people in our education institutions. Although to believe that there is not any off-world alien life forms is simply statistically ignorant. Not to mention ALL the eye witness accounts, pictures, vids, etc...

There are archeological finds that are proving out all the theories of previous advanced civilizations everyday. It is the drive-by media, elitist scientists, and shadow governmental bodies that keep the general public from knowing.

These findings are actually proving that there has been NON human contact and influence for millenia.
 

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Lcpl-QUIK wrote:
You're correct Newb, there is quite a bit of evidence to support the idea that humans have been around a LOT longer than have, has, and is being taught to people in our education institutions. Although to believe that there is not any off-world alien life forms is simply statistically ignorant. Not to mention ALL the eye witness accounts, pictures, vids, etc...

There are archeological finds that are proving out all the theories of previous advanced civilizations everyday. It is the drive-by media, elitist scientists, and shadow governmental bodies that keep the general public from knowing.

These findings are actually proving that there has been NON human contact and influence for millenia.


What,what,what!?!?!?

When did I write about there being no off world beings that are not human who could be visiting us!? Shocked
 
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Don't know as I haven't followed your posts.

I was replying to your comments. My take (which could've been wrong) on them was that you don't believe in them.

Hence my comments.

I think that since I've been attending BV that there are a multitude of varying opinions. There are STILL some out there who think MILLIONS of eye-witness statements, physical evidence, and historical records from virtually EVERY nation on Earth, conclusively DO NOT prove a thing. How wrong they are, but there it is just the same.
 

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I thought the book was great. I wish there were a sequel. I've since met an abductee/artist named David Huggins who knows nothing about Hair of The Alien but a lot of what he describes from consciously-recalled memory (and then paints) sounds a lot like the case in the book.[/i]  

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