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OutOfBodyDude
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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: All clues lead to abduction |
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Last night I listened my Gateway Experience CDs. For those who don't know what they are, they alter ur brainwaves to get into altered states of consiousness. I listened to Wave 7, part 4, which assists you into meeting and working with guides. Some things happened that I find it hard to explain. Ok here we go..
I began listening at about 3:15 am. I clicked out of the experience probably 10 minutes into it. I figure this because I don't recall hearing any of the exercise dialouge after a certain point, I barely got passed getting into focus 12 before the clickout. So I regain consiousness with a strange feeling.. a feeling like I was just with someone or somthing, I felt like I was just brought back by whoever this was. Here comes the part that I don't get, the part that scares me a little. This particular exercise was about 35 minutes long. I regained consciousness at the very end of this exercise. So I looked at the clock, and it is almost 5 am. At the time I did not make the connection that there was about an hour of missing time, of almost impossibly missed time. Just thinking about this gives me butterflies. But I have to accept it, for it happened.
So I'm dreaming, and I gain a little bit of lucidity. I am thinking some things, and it seems like my thoughts are distorted and skewed out by some outside force. After a few moments of this weird feeling, I feel an energetic presence touch my arm and heard a noise, I forget what the noise was but that combined with the touch make me wake up. It gets weirder. It was about 9 am when I woke up. I look out my window, and I see somthing and I didnt, and still dont, know what it was. It was a little cloudy outside, but at this one point in the sky there were a lot of clouds, but there was an opening in the center of the clouds, and there was a light, not extremely bright but not too dim either, and this light was shining through the clouds. But it was not the sun, for I could see the sun, and it definately was not the moon. It was a separate light, a sphere of light I could see through the opening in the clouds. I was a little freaked out, but also a little bit amazed.
This morning and even right now, for no reason at all I have had a couple of moments where I would feel the sense of doom. Like being very scared, of something I consciously am not aware of. After reviewing the events, I don't know what to think. Part of me says, whatever happened, it probably had something to do with guides that I may have met unconsciously during my click out or somthing related to that. But theres this other part of me that says, how could I have this missing time, this feeling that I am not conscious of its source, and these strange happenings all in one night. Some part of me believes it may have something to do with somthing nonhuman. Perhaps ETs. The truth is, I have been unimaginably afraid of aliens every since I was a little kid, for absolutely no reason at all. Just looking at a picture of them would cause the most intense fear ever, and I cant not overlook the fact that many people who have had experiences with abductions and such have had a fear as intense as mine at the thought of these beings, even though they do not did not know why at the time. I cant over look the fact that growing up, I have always had a feeling of a presense nearby before falling asleep. I cant overlook the fact that on a few occasions I have gained consiousness to find myself looking up with numerous beings around my bed, the same beings that have caused such fear in my heart for reasons I do not know. And I also cant over look the fact that I am becoming a new person, most of my old fears have been dissolved, and the ones that are not totally gone are in the process, are getting smaller and smaller as the days go by. I believe I have been seeking contact with these beings, unconsciously, and even a little bit consciously. My interest in them has increased 10 fold over the past month or so, and the fear I have for them is nowhere near as strong as it used to be. Part of me thinks that there is a chance I have had ET experiences more than once, and the more open I become and the more I accept it, the more I will be conscious of them.
But who knows, maybe Im just loosing my mind!
EDIT: A few minutes after typing this entry, I remembered a dream I had last night that was quite disturbing. I woke up in my bed, and had a huge, red bump on the side of my neck with a decent sized hole in it, with some gooey stuff oozing out. Just as I saw this thing on my neck, a memory came to me of an alien sticking me with some kind of long needle. I knew that I had been abducted. I dont remember anything that happened after this.
So on top of all these weird experiences that happened in reality, not in a dream, I have a dream that connects the experiences directly to what I think may have happened. Now realise I came to the (possible) conclusion about the aliens today, right before I wrote my journal entry. I had not been consumed with the idea of aliens last night, even after I noticed the missing time I did not think anything of it, these conclusions are strictly based on the experiences I had. I know somthing is going on. I have to figure it out. |
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| wow.... i really dont have anything to say but wow |
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Wow, thats intense. The very idea of waking up in the middle of the night to strange beings hovering around my bed is my absolute worst nightmare...and I have read that many abductees felt paralyzed during this, and that adds to my fear, because even though I could have some kind of self defense, it wouldnt do me any good...*shudders* I hate the feeling of helplessness. I have also woken up, being insanely afraid, feeling like someone/thing is in the room too. Its very hard to deal with, isnt it?
It makes sense that you wouldnt be as afraid of them anymore since youve been studying and trying to understand this stuff better...we are afraid of what we dont understand. I also think it could be dangerous to open yourself up to them, but just be cautious..I guess.
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The Robert Monroe Gateway tapes are designed to help you experience exactly what you have experienced and yes this has to do with your guides, the missing time is normal, you very likely had an OBE, and as for the fear and the dream, you didn't get rid of all your fears and put them in your box and now that fear is coming back to haunt you, literally. My suggestion would be to do the excerise again and make sure you perform it properly, then you should have no more trouble. I can assure you, you have NOT been abducted. I hope this helps..
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| The Robert Monroe Gateway tapes are designed to help you experience exactly what you have experienced |
The gateway experience is intended to open you up to new levels of consciousness. The particular excerise I did that night was to help me meet and work with guides. Trust me, I know almost everything there is to know about Gateway, hemisync, OBEs, Afterlife topics, ect.. What I expereinced is like nothing I have heard of as far as these topics are concerned. The tapes are not intended to alter our physical reality, which is a large part of the strange occurances I described.
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| the missing time is normal, |
Missing time is normal when experiencing a click out. I am well aware of this, for I have at least 2 click outs a week while doing the exercises. However, the missing time I expeirenced was NOT normal. Perhaps you read over too quickly what I described. I'll explain it for you. I regained consciousness when the track was over. The track was 35 minutes long. Therefore, it should have been about 3:35 am. However it was 5:00am. Something happened to cause the time of the tape and apparently the personal time I experienced to somehow "freeze" for almost an hour and a half. This is NOT normal. Do you get what I am saying? The only thing I can think of to explain it is I was somehow taken to a place where time did not exist and was there for an hour and a half. Someone else said my energy may have caused the ipod to somehow "freeze in time" for an hour and a half, but I dont know about that one.
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| you very likely had an OBE, |
I have been having OBEs for over Six years now. I did not have an OBE. Nothing I described even resembled the experience of Astral Projection, so I don't know where this idea came from. But trust me, I am well experienced with leaving my body. Even if I did so without being conscious of it, that would not explain a single incident I described.
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| and as for the fear and the dream, you didn't get rid of all your fears and put them in your box and now that fear is coming back to haunt you, literally. |
The quesiton of concern is not whether or not I got rid of my fear. The quesiton is, what caused this fear in the first place. Finding an answer to that would most likely explain a lot. However, this answer is currently beyond my conscious level of focus.
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| My suggestion would be to do the excerise again and make sure you perform it properly, then you should have no more trouble. |
You are assuming I performed the exercise inproperly. This is not the case. I am not having troubles concerning my Gateway program. It is going excellent. Many of the strange experiences I had that night did not happen in an altered state of consciousness, they happened in physical reality. This had nothing to do with gateway. Listening to a tape will not make time freeze for an hour and a half, and will not cause strange lights to appear in the sky.
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| I can assure you, you have NOT been abducted. I hope this helps.. |
Thanks for the concern. I am not worried about it though. Your assurance is not neccessary, but truthfully, not helpful either. Much of what you said is incorrect. I have years of experience with altered states of consciousness, and know what I am talking about when I say certain things were inexplainable. Anything is possible while in altered states of consciousness. But the fact that these things happened in physical reality is why I know something unusually out of the ordinary happened. I am not looking for explainations for the things that happened, because if anyone is qualified to explain these things it would be me. However, certain things I still cannot explain. I just wanted to share the experience and am simply wondering if anyone has expereinced similar incidences. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: yeah... |
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i have..( hand being raised very slowly..)
BUT ..i'll be damned if i will publish it here right now...
BUT, yes, it does sound as if you have had an experience..
and lightwolf could very well be right, you may have had the mother of OOB experiences, and opened a ton of whatever..
then again, you just might really have some visitors that come at oddly coincedental times...
they do that...
how they know? i don't know...
look for the usual signs...
sleep with the dog..
been there....
too strange.. |
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evutch..
Can you tell me your experience? I know you can. So why don't you? Please do. Thanks! |
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At 5 a.m. its easy to lose an hour after listening to music intended to put you to sleep  I lose 6-8 hours every night and I don't remember a thing  Except by my lucid dreams where I am looking at strange beings too (seriously), but its a dream that is composed of conscious efforts to examine problems or issues affecting the "environment" of my life.
I can imagine planets and galaxies, heck I can even make a square cube that I imagine spin and turn on its diagonal axis ... its all about mind control.
When I do imagine these things I can actually imagine myself to the point where I can create an entire plain ... with houses and places ... an ocean side home is my best and I can imagine the home with rooms and swimming pools and libraries. Then I can imagine a woman enjoying the comforts of this home. Then you realize, that if your in control and understand consciously that you can make these things happen, that these things are concocted by thought and a conscious effort. Those whom don't realize its a conscious effort usually explain using paranormal explanations. But in this state who is in control?
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| At 5 a.m. its easy to lose an hour after listening to music intended to put you to sleep |
You are obviously lacking understanding of the situation at hand. Think of it like this. You are laying down with an egg timer on your chest at 3 am. The egg timer takes half an hour for the sand to completely fill the bottom of the hourglass. You loose consciousness, and regain awareness just before you see the sand completely fill the bottom of the hourglass. This takes half an hour, correct? But you look at the clock... and two hours have gone by. How do you explain that? This is a seemingly impossible situation. Yet it happened, to me.
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| these things are concocted by thought and a conscious effort. Those whom don't realize its a conscious effort usually explain using paranormal explanations |
I am well familiar with the powers of the mind and imagination. I use imagination to jumpstart After Death Contacts and Retrievals, or create a scene and jump into it in a lucid dream type experience. During my Out of Body travels, I use my mind to move, communicate, transverse large areas and track people down, create things, ect. I also use intent to manipulate physical reality. However, the occurances I experienced have nothing to do with that:
1. Missing time that defies reality and the laws of physics
2. Being touched by an unknown entity
3. Seeing an unexplainable light in the sky while awake
Now combine these events with:
4. The feeling of being with beings just before realizing the missing time. I do not think I was with beings, I intuitively know I was. They could have been spirit guides for all I know, I am not saying they were definately aliens.
5. Having an extremely real dream of being abducted by aliens.
When you look at the three incidents that occured in physical reality, there are too many questions to be answered in order to come up with a logical explanation. However, when you look at the abstract incidents, my dream, my inner knowing, my intuition(things which I have been developing for years and years and I trust with my life), then the physical occurances start to make a little more sense and conclusions are able to be drawn. |
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 Don't worry dude you are not alone, I have experienced simular circumstances, but I have realized that I wasn't nessaryly abducted by aliens in person nor do I think you were abducted by ailens, here is my story and I will compare it yours an anylyze the crap out of it...
I was lying in bed having trouble sleeping, so I desided to play a relaxation CD, (12:00am) after about 30 minutes I fell in a state called Theta sleep, it's where the brian produces Theta wavs and your mind goes into a trance like state.
Anyway during that time I traveled to a place called Teleranreodd in spirit form and it was a vast medeival village with a lot of friendly elf beings there, after going to the other end of the village I noticed a dark portal open up in front of me and in that portal was a purple and black clouds in the sky and a very dark cityscape and I could only make out the outlines of the buildings, and in the distance several black ghostly beings came racing towards me, so I jumped back and landed in my bedroom on my bed, I look beside me and there where two black ghostly beings beside me next to my bed and they morphed into grey aliens just as I layed eyes on them and they extended six needles from thier fingers (one on each end of the finger) and drove them into my knee caps, I awoke with incredible pain in my knees, to the point where I was screaming. (5:00am) I went to my friends place in that state, and they helped me out my psychicly removing the pain by touch, I don't know how else to explain it but that's what happened. I realized then that I didn't protect myself spiritually that's why I got attacked like that, and that's why you got attacked like that, what you have experienced was a astrial enity that took a form that you fear the most and when you astrial travel you should put up energy bariers up before you go into theta sleep, infact I can tell you how just email me and I'll tell you.
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| what you have experienced was a astrial enity that took a form that you fear the most and when you astrial travel you should put up energy bariers up before you go into theta sleep, |
Before any meditation or out of body experience I always form my resonant energy balloon around my body to protect me.
I was not attacked by any entities. I never said I was. The only thing directly related to aliens was the dream I had about being abducted. When I was touched by the being, it was not an attack, in fact it was gentle. Our experiences are extremely different. Thanks for the try though. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: All clues lead to abduction |
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LOLOL. I don't know if this is a joke or not. If you are serious, then No!! They were created by Robert Monroe, the pioneer of out of body experiences. They work by simple science. The frequencies from the headphones tune in with and change your brain's frequency. States of consciousness are linked with a specific frequency, so changing your brain's frequency changes your state of consciousness. They are designed to help you explore altered states of consciousness and different levels of reality, not to help you get abducted by aliens!
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| Last night I listened my Gateway Experience CDs. For those who don't know what they are, they alter ur brainwaves to get into altered states of consiousness. |
Do you think there’s a possibility that these CD’s were created by aliens, or influenced by them in some way? |
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i have had 1 out of body experience that i can remmember.it happened when i was 12.my sisters ,2 neighbors,and i were sitting in a circle,in our living room.we just sitting their talking about nothing in perfticular,i was talking and all of a sudden i was looking down on everyone.i could see ever one including myself, and i was still talking.
it was pretty freaky.i do not know how long it lasted. at the time, i did not ask anyone if they had the same experience.but when i did tell them about it ,they told me they had the same experience at the same time i did.
we never talked about after that .it freaked us out
i have had vivid dreams about aliens invading earth.i was fighting for my life.i had not seen any movies ,or read anything recent to maybe acoount for the for the dreams.
i have had dreams about floods and tornadoes.what freaked me out about that was it was before we had all the flooding and tornadoes last year.actually it has occured for several years each time,it was before they occured.i know it sounds like i am feeding u a line of bull but it happened
 sorry so long. |
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