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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Abduction Help Reply with quote
 
Im new to this forum and Im not on here to claim that I know anything special or have the slightes clue as to what is going on in relation to sightings and most of all abductions. I have been an abductee from as far back as I can remember, which is about age four. I am 38 now. I have never told anyone other than my wife. After 13 years of being married, she had questions, realted to the way I would be in the morning after an abduction. Somtimes my pillow will have a large blood stain, and scars show up on my legs. God bless her, she is very supportive and believes my situation. About ten years ago I began to have good lucid memories of these events, which usually happen about 10 times a year. I can tell roughly three to four days prior to them happening. I cant explain how frightening these events are. The closest I can come to explaining it is, you know the feeling you get when you first walk up on a snake or someone is hiding and they jump out and scare you. You have that feeling for three to four hours straight. It is extremely exhausting. I learned to except this as part of my life, however I would give anything for it to stop. It becomes obsesive. I have been taken from other places than my bed, which to me is much more frightening. I live in Gulf Breeze, Florida, which some consider to be a hot bed for this activity. That could be true, because I see UFO's on occaison. Like I said, I personally have learned to live with this. Although I dislike the experience, and it usually in relatively painful. I always have a feeling that if I just cooperate, Ill be sent home. The crust of me writing this is two fold. I would love to here from anyone that has any clue as to why this happens to people. And I will tell you this, it happens to more people than you think. Ive never been taken without seeing others in where ever it is they take us. I truelly would love to know if there is a way to make it stop. The main reason why, and its the reason im here, is that on the last two episodes, I have seen my 10 year old daughter. It is the worst feeling in the world to see her fear and the things they do, and be absolutely helpless to stop it. I dont think it is humanly possible to confront or resist these, beings or whatever they are. My daughter never says anything. Somehow they block it, but she will not sleep with her light off. She says she has nightmares. I asked to draw some of her dreams for me, and one of the dreams she drew was a pic of a saucer, with beings in it that slightly resembeld the ones that take us. I am desparate to end this, if only for her sake. It is not a good feeling to watch your child go through this, even though, I know she is coming home each time. I dont trust these things, they never respond to questions, they just cut you voice off, and do there thing, and send you back. If anyone knows anything more than me please let me know. I am desparate to stop my daughter from having to go through this.  
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Hello Harrison,

I may be going out on a limb here, but I am doing so in an honest attempt to help you with your situation. You've stated that you've had multiple encounters, both as an abductee and as sightings. I find it unusual that you've had such a long history of both types of encounters. Many abductess never see the outside of the ship, witnessing the event as a sighting. Anyway, I think that among abductees, you are a minority in that aspect.

As far as the abductions are concerned, can you tell me if you feel paralyzed prior to the experience? Do you hear an odd sound, sort of like a roaring ocean (or static) prior to the abduction? If so, there may be a way to stop your abduction experience.

If you feel more comfortable discussing this privately, please send me a PM.

And before I forget my manners, welcome to the BV.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: abduction help Reply with quote
 
HI harrison, i'm a newbie too, maybe I can help you, I'v been in contact with aliens since I was 5, some bad experiences mostly good, now in my 50s I'v learned a few things, first thing you need to do is remember every thing that has happend to you from the beguining at age 4 and who is involved , what type, were from , what ever you remember write it down in a journal ,break it down into sections 4-10 11-20 21-38, you were programed to forget ,the more you write down the more you will remember,try to draw what you saw in every contact. next get help, find people like you in your town, at ufo shows,new age bookstores see if they can recomend a good hipnotherapist, one that has experience with abductee cases ,make sure you tape each seccion and write what you remember in your journal, dont take your daughter untill you have more info and can explain it better, if you can get some books or dvds on hypnotising and learn how to hypnotise it will make it easier on your daughter to have you do it, I learned how to in my 30s ,I'v hypnotised about 20 people most of them contact related including my wife and 2 of my 3 kids . most abductions are about genetics,soul evolution,or military projects, after you have gone to a hypnotherapist a few times ask him to try to talk to your soul while you are under hypnosis I know it sounds hokey, but your soul can talk independently of you,write down some questions that he can ask, like what do they want,how can I stop them ,how can I contact someone that can help me, things like that ,last but no least . pray, pray for knolledge, pray for help, pray for your family, I dont belive in "god" the way most people do , but when you pray, by yourself , in a relaxed state of mind, they will listen! I hope this helps you. cntryboy. Smile  
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Abduction Help Reply with quote
 
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Im new to this forum and Im not on here to claim that I know anything special or have the slightes clue as to what is going on in relation to sightings and most of all abductions. I have been an abductee from as far back as I can remember, which is about age four. I am 38 now. I have never told anyone other than my wife. After 13 years of being married, she had questions, realted to the way I would be in the morning after an abduction. Somtimes my pillow will have a large blood stain, and scars show up on my legs. God bless her, she is very supportive and believes my situation. About ten years ago I began to have good lucid memories of these events, which usually happen about 10 times a year. I can tell roughly three to four days prior to them happening. I cant explain how frightening these events are. The closest I can come to explaining it is, you know the feeling you get when you first walk up on a snake or someone is hiding and they jump out and scare you. You have that feeling for three to four hours straight. It is extremely exhausting. I learned to except this as part of my life, however I would give anything for it to stop. It becomes obsesive. I have been taken from other places than my bed, which to me is much more frightening. I live in Gulf Breeze, Florida, which some consider to be a hot bed for this activity. That could be true, because I see UFO's on occaison. Like I said, I personally have learned to live with this. Although I dislike the experience, and it usually in relatively painful. I always have a feeling that if I just cooperate, Ill be sent home. The crust of me writing this is two fold. I would love to here from anyone that has any clue as to why this happens to people. And I will tell you this, it happens to more people than you think. Ive never been taken without seeing others in where ever it is they take us. I truelly would love to know if there is a way to make it stop. The main reason why, and its the reason im here, is that on the last two episodes, I have seen my 10 year old daughter. It is the worst feeling in the world to see her fear and the things they do, and be absolutely helpless to stop it. I dont think it is humanly possible to confront or resist these, beings or whatever they are. My daughter never says anything. Somehow they block it, but she will not sleep with her light off. She says she has nightmares. I asked to draw some of her dreams for me, and one of the dreams she drew was a pic of a saucer, with beings in it that slightly resembeld the ones that take us. I am desparate to end this, if only for her sake. It is not a good feeling to watch your child go through this, even though, I know she is coming home each time. I dont trust these things, they never respond to questions, they just cut you voice off, and do there thing, and send you back. If anyone knows anything more than me please let me know. I am desparate to stop my daughter from having to go through this.


Welcome to the vault Harrison......Though the mental trauma is there, just know that you have lived 38 yrs and started a family..lived a very normal life in that sense....by knowing this, just know that you are still here and functioning..that these experiences have not taken that away from you..Alive and kicking so to speak....If these experiences are truly happening to you..I honestly can say I have no Idea of how to stop them...I have gone throughout mylife with the very experiences of wich you speak, along with numerous members of my family....Many people have said that just by confronting and full conciously becoming aware of the situation,that they suddenly stop.....A long time ago I took this to heart, though a change did appear to happen it was false, and I quickly relized that my situation was not at an end...I will explain this in more detail later or maby in a PM......I recomend a Pm to BLOO..It can be hectic when many people are throwing answers your way...take it slow and a bit at a time..give her a PM and hear what she has to say...I am open aswell if you wish to discuss in the PMs.....I would like to hear more detail of your experiences, if you are willing to share.
 

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I dont belive in "god" the way most people do


They say God is dead, but he has more apologists than Satan. Cntryboy, what do you know about military projects? I like what you said about talking to soul - do you find aliens use a similar language. Somebody seems to understand it.

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Thanks to each of you for responding. It does feel somwhat better just knowing that there are others. I only know of others from those that I see during the experience. It also is more comforting to here from someone that has there own children involved also. I will PM some of you and relate furthur what my experiences are. I read somtimes, I should say more so than not, about these wonderful contact experiences. Mine arn't that way. Im not somone who is afraid of much, but these things are frightening. Especiallly when you wake up with blood pouring out of your nose. You pray that they performed what ever it was they did properly based on our anaotomy. Thank you for your responses an I will provide more when I have more time. Within the next day or so.

P.S. It was nice to get encouraging responses. Ive seen some on other post or boards that were unbelievably rude or negative. Its the main reason this is the first time ive ever put this out to someone other than my wife. You guys were good and thank you.

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
It is a good feeling finding others with similar experiences...not as isolated.....It is a very good thing to share your experiences aloud..I am sure you will find in time that some of the heavy burdens that come with this phenomena will feel lifted..not gone, but you will feel alot better just letting it out and stating it aloud Wink ....A releasment of some pressure that builds up throughout the years...I'm glad you have made the choice to join us here......I look forward to our future discussions.  

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One last thing for Bloo. I have never actually seen the outside of a saucer, especially up close. What I see are lights doing some very meraculous things realtive to speed and change of direction. All but one of these experiences occured at night. The reason I know when a few day before being take is that my hands begin to shake. Not much, but as if you were overloaded with caffeine. This could be by pure chance, but it has never not happened. After the experience they stop. Dont know why nor do I care, im just happy that I get some kind of warning, at least in my mind, so that I can prepare mentally for it to happen.

As for how it starts, when im in bed for example, I usually have trouble sleeping. At some point, everything goes dead quiet, I mean absouletly quiet except for this internal buzzing sound that feels as though its in the back of my head. Im not paralyzed or anything. A few times ive tried to wake my wife. But that does not work. Always sleeps in my room, he usually makes a noice as if he knows, but is silenced quickly. Recently my dog has started sleeping half way between my room and my daughters. After what feels like maybe one minute Im just there. Usually just sitting on this bench like thing made of what feels like metal. And there are others sitting two. The bench is long, Most can move there eyes or head but nothing else. And no one speaks, or even acts as if the want to. Its strange. I always just sat there not observing until it was my turn, scared as hell, but kind of knowing once it was over i was going home. Not until the first time I saw my daughter, did I really begin to panic. I will say one thing, the renderings you see of the insided of ships, if thats where I am, on TV or on the web, are not accurate for my experiences. I mean this in the since of this pristene high tech operating room inviorment. The inside is relative dim. The air is hot and almost unbreathable, and it doesnt appear clean or sanitary, but I guess it must be for the things they do not to make us sick. Well thats all for now, and I hope I ansered you question Boo. Thanks again for everything. Harrison
 
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Sorry for all the typos and left out words above. Im at work and in a hurry. The part about always sleeping in my room, is my yellow lab. And I meant to say I sit on that bench just observing.  
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Harrison wrote:
At some point, everything goes dead quiet, I mean absouletly quiet except for this internal buzzing sound that feels as though its in the back of my head.


Harrison,

Some people will argue that the abduction experience is merely sleep paralysis. However, abductees know that this is not the case. Anyone who has experienced these events repeatedly throughout their lifetime know all too well, how real they are.

You described a buzzing sound. That is exactly the response that I thought you'd have. The buzzing sound... This buzzing sound is what you should consider to be your warning sign for an abduction experience in progress.
This is going to sound really bizarre to all the non-abductees reading this... but IF you can gain control during the time that the buzzing sound is happening, you can cease that particular abduction from happening. The key is to make the buzzing sound stop completely. In order to do this, you must wake up and sit up. The downside to this control effort is that the "visitation" attempts may continue each time you go back to sleep that night.


Also, am I safe to assume that you are still capable of having children? I am thoroughly convinced that "visits" occur for genetic purposes only. There is a really good chance that a vasectomy or a hysterectomy (whichever suits your gender) will stop the visits. This might be a great choice for you as long as you don't have plans for any future children.
 
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You’ve been experiencing this for many years….what positive steps have you taken so far to end it?

Why not set up a video camera where you sleep for example….


I don't get it. How could it help "end it" by setting up a video camera?
 
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dejarma wrote:
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I don't get it. How could it help "end it" by setting up a video camera?

You tell friends that things are going missing from your garden………..your friends say they don’t believe you!!! I know what I’d do Idea

do i really need to explain Confused


Yes, by all means... please explain how setting up a video camera will "end" an abductee's experiences. Maybe I'm not as smart as you, but from my point of view... setting up a video camera could only serve one purpose: To prove to someone like YOU that an abduction attempt was actually made. But in all honesty, anyone who has experienced an abduction could give a rat's ass if YOU believe it or not. Therefore, setting up a video camera serves only one purpose: Yours.
 
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Well don’t play the video to the likes of me then for feck sake Rolling Eyes what’s the matter with you geeeesee Mad

If someone knows they have a REAL alien abduction on tape then:
Put it on youtube…show the police…go to the news papers…go to TV networks!!!!!!!!!!

& then when all those who would be interested have pondered over this amazing video that everyone has seen can’t prove it’s fake (because it’s not) then people would start to take the abductee seriously & maybe real help would be on it’s way….a logical approach Question


Well Dejarma, if an abductee provided video proof, it still doesn't mean that it's "real" proof. Videos can faked. Photos can be photo-shopped. There will always be non-believers.

Your logical approach isn't very "logical" anyway. The question posed in this partular thread was NOT a quest to help prove their abduction to you or anyone else. Their question was how to make it stop.

Again, if video taping were possible, it would serve only to "prove" and even then, the video proof is debatable.

Video is definitely not the answer to Harrison's question. Rolling Eyes
 
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Well bloo: would you yourself believe a video was for real if it was shown to you by an abductee claiming it’s real?

I might or I might not. It depends on the video content, who made it and why.

Now it's my turn to ask you a question. Is it possible for you to stay on topic?
 
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dejarma wrote:
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if video taping were possible, it would serve only to "prove" and even then, the video proof is debatable.


Therefore the claims in here must be debatable too?…. Yet you seem to defend claims posted when questioned…hhhhmmmmmmmm


Well, it just seems kind of childish to debate the validity of abduction when that isn't even the question at hand in this thread.

Seriously... if you want to discuss the validity of abductions in general, that's awesome. But why not start a new thread for that purpose, rather than derail this one?
 
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