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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Cheney implicated in Minot nuke theft Reply with quote
 
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Excerpt of Part II of story at waynemadsenreport.com

Part II of a two-part series

Between August 24 and September 6, 2007, the U.S. Air Force's nuclear chain-of-command was severely compromised by a rival chain established out of Vice President Dick Cheney's office and extending through the offices of the Air Force Secretary and Chief of Staff, the Air Force's Cyber-Warfare element, and into the strategic bombing commands located at Minot and Barksdale Air Force Bases. In the weeks before and after this time period, there is ample evidence to suggest that the security of nuclear weapons, particularly at Minot, was placed in severe jeopardy by the rival chain-of-command.

On August 24, 2007, three B-52s operating from Barksdale flew a training exercise called REX REDUX, officially billed as a commemoration of a 1938 B-17 flight directed at the Italian luxury liner SS Rex. The exercise, personally ordered by Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley, was actually testing an Israeli-developed imaging and targeting pod called LITENING II on a U.S. Navy contracted merchant vessel, the USNS Bobo, in the Atlantic east of Bermuda and several targets of opportunity along the planes' flight paths through the southern United States.

REX REDUX also involved assets of the Air Force's embryonic Cyber Command in Washington and Barksdale.

Four days later, on August 30, a Barksdale-based B-52 flew six nuclear warhead tipped AGM-129 advanced cruise missiles from Minot to Barksdale. The incident was later called a "mistake" by Air Force officials. However, three high-ranking Air Force officers leaked the incident to the Air Force Times.

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne, a key member of the rival chain-of-command, rewarded his loyalists in Barksdale by announcing the base had been selected as the preliminary headquarters for the Air Force Cyber Command. Wynne made his announcement at a Shreveport gambling casino. Wynne, according to a CNN report, advocated the testing of nonlethal weapons, like high-power microwave weapons, against American citizens. Wynne said, "If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation."

Minot Air Force Base may also get a piece of the cyber-warfare pie. Attempts by this editor to interest North Dakota Democratic Senator Byron Dorgan in the August 30 nuclear incident were unsuccessful. Dorgan is obviously angling, along with Democratic Senator Kent Conrad, to get a chunk of the cyber-war command pie for Minot.

Far from being a mistake, the procurement of the nuclear missiles from Minot was tied to a rival chain-of-command operation that would occur on September 6, when the Israeli Air Force struck a purported Syrian nuclear facility in eastern Syria, near the town of Dayr az Zawr.

On April 24, 2008, as news broke of an FBI investigation into a long-time Israeli intelligence ring that penetrated the U.S. military and intelligence communities, CIA director, Air Force General Michael Hayden, revealed further "intelligence" on the Syrian facility, said to be a joint North Korean-Syrian reactor modeled after the Yongbyon facility in North Korea. However, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and American weapons experts cast doubt on the veracity of the CIA's intelligence, including a dubious videotape said to have originated with Israeli intelligence sources. Hayden, it appears, is part of the rival Air Force chain-of-command, taking orders directly from Cheney, to prepare and incite a U.S. military conflict with Syria and Iran.

The FBI investigation of the Israeli spy ring, which included convicted US Navy spy Jonathan Pollard; accused Army spy Ben-Ami Kadish; and possibly others who served in high positions in the George W. Bush administration is also reportedly looking at key members of the rival Air Force chain-of-command.

It is noteworthy that Air Force Cyber-Warfare guru Dr. Lani Kass, who had recently been an Israeli Air Force Major, first came to the United States as a defense contractor in 1981, the halcyon period of the Israeli spy ring inside the Pentagon and Reagan administration. Reagan National Security Council Middle East expert Douglas Feith was fired from his job after he was suspected of passing classified information to an Israeli embassy contact. Feith was re-hired at the Pentagon by his old friend Richard Perle. Kass now serves as the Air Force's chief cyber-warfare guru and she also specializes in information operations deception. Along with Air Force General Lawrence Stuztriem, Kass is involved in Operation Checkmate, operational planning for a U.S. military attack on Iran.

Two days after the Israeli spy story involving Kadish broke, the Pentagon-chartered cargo ship, SS Westward Venture, fired machine guns at approaching Iranian patrol vessels.

After the Minot nuclear incident, the Air Force's Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia ordered a stand down of all fighters and bombers in the Air Force. Although the order was issued on September 7, the day after the Israeli strike on the "Al Kibar" site in Syria, the stand down did not occur until September 14.

Gates ordered an outside review of the Minot incident conducted by retired former Air Force Chief of Staff General Larry Welch. Welch was hardly an impartial judge, having been part of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's favorite program, the Ballistic Missile Defense System or "Star Wars II." Welch led a Blue Ribbon panel that heaped praise on the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization, then led by Air Force General Ronald Kadish.

The Welch Report failed to discover the breakdown in Air Force nuclear command-and-control and the existence of the rival chain. An indication of the worthlessness of the Welch Report was the discovery that in August 2006, four Minuteman nose cone nuclear fuse assemblies were "mistakenly" shipped from Hill Air Force Base in Utah to Taiwan. The fuses had originally been shipped to Hill from F. E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming in March 2005. Gates reacted to the incident by ordering an unprecedented inventory of all nuclear weapons and nuclear material in the U.S. arsenal.

On April 21, 2008, Gates, speaking to young Air Force officers at the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, criticized the Air Force for refusing his orders to get more involved in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Gates' criticisms stunned the audience and reverberated throughout the Air Force. Here was a Secretary of Defense indicating that a subordinate service was insubordinate. Gates was likely hinting at the existence of the rival nuclear chain-of-command directed from Cheney's office.

The rival nuclear chain-of-command that was responsible for the Minot nuclear incident, REX REDUX, and associated events is as follows:

Vice President Dick Cheney

-- Chief of Staff David Addington

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley

-- Gen. Lawrence Stuztriem, Chief of Staff of the Air Force Strategic Studies Group - CHECKMATE

-- Dr. Lani Kass, ex-Israeli Air Force, Cyber Warfare, US Air Force, CHECKMATE

Lt. Gen. Robert Elder, Commander 8th Air Force, Barksdale Air Force Base

Col. Bruce Emig, Commander 5th Bomb Wing, Minot Air Force Base (relieved of command after nuclear incident)

Maj. Gen. Stephen Goldfein, Commander Air Warfare Center, Nellis Air Force Base

Goldfein's role in the chain-of-command has been exposed as a result of a Department of Defense Inspector General audit that discovered that Goldfein and Moseley helped steer a $50 million public relations contract for the Air Force's elite Thunderbirds flying team to Strategic Message Solutions (SMS), a firm that had been established to bid on the Thunderbirds Air Show Production Services, or TAPS. On September 2, 2007, as the impact of the Minot nuclear incident was still being felt in Minot and around the Air Force, a scheduled Thunderbirds air show to help celebrate "Northern Neighbors Day" was proclaimed to be still on schedule for September 8. A week after the worst nuclear security command-and-control debacle in the nation's history, Minot Air Force Base opened its gates for the public to come on to the base and watch the Thunderbirds perform. There was even a traffic jam of civilian cars, including some from nearby Canada, waiting to drive on to the base.

Meanwhile, lower and mid- ranking Air Force nuclear security personnel were being stripped of their personnel reliability program clearances for access to nuclear weapons on the base. The contrast could not have been more stark. It was clear that carrying on with the scheduled Thunderbirds show at Minot was part of a public relations spin being directed from Moseley and his staff.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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Whats it going to take for the people of America to wise up ? Crying or Very sad


a BIG KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

a bigga badda BOOM..
 
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Whats it going to take for the people of America to wise up ? Crying or Very sad


Hmmm! Bunging the terrorvision over the back fence is a good start.

Food shortages should help as well. - When there is food to be had, most everyone can be expected to adhere to enough of the basic rules predominant in a given society.

But when less evolved humans, and especially those descended from homo erectus have a rumbling tummy instincts which are barely concealed will overpower any reasoning or morality. ie- the Blacks (esp) will go "ape," and hopefully the spectacle will unsettle the dear ignorant lemmings sufficiently to start protecting themselves.

Miracles are known to happen. But I doubt any awakening will be either timely or adequate.

... But then there's payback . . . . . Twisted Evil The eternal parasites with their perverted plans will surely begin to feed off each other and when they are without their armies of brainwashed sycophants they will once again be dispersed. If only the matter could be settled finally. - The biggest "fish," who live in places which aren't on any maps we can find have a way of getting away with it and resurfacing when there is something worth stealing again.
 

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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Conclusion

Six nuclear weapons disappeared from Minot AFB in North Dakota.

Five nuclear weapons were discovered at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.

Which leads to my chilling conclusion:

Someone, operating under a special chain of command within the United States Air Force, just stole a nuclear weapon.


What next?

The answer has been provided several times, most recently by CIA Director and General Michael Hayden. On September 7, dressed in full military uniform, Hayden told assembled members of the Council of Foreign Relations:

"Our analysts assess with high confidence that al-Qaida's central leadership is planning high-impact plots against the U. S. homeland."

"We assess with high confidence that al-Qaida is focusing on targets that would produce mass casualties, dramatic destruction and significant aftershocks."

An eye for an eye. Use of nukes will justify use of nukes. A perfect excuse to wage nuclear war against Iran.

I suspect Hayden is absolutely correct, except for his mistaken identification of the "central leadership" that is planning detonation of a nuclear weapon on American soil.

Oh-h-h sh**. I don't know about which central leadership will be "it"; but I smell high treason for bucks. This ain't healthy.
 

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I was under the impression that this incident was a bit of cyberwarfare by the Chinese, that they forged military orders on a number of fronts and everybody fell for it.  
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Hi, Evutch! I miss talking with you.

I believe the Chinese cyber story was disinfo from Cheney and the ZioNazis in D.C.

This, once again, proves there is not a lick of difference between Democrats and Republicans. The Democrtas have the power to get these people arrested but they won't do it. It's up the military at this point. We need a counter coup.
 
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You maybe right Screamzero............but I wouldn't give you a nickel for your chances of getting Americans off thier apathedic butts. They declare war on terror, and send our troops thousands of miles away. Leaving all our borders open and exposed to infiltraters. We have an active small arms drug war going on all along our southern border. You have whole Mexican police forces resigning, because the threats to them and thier families have been carried out without reprisal by the government. Mexican police chiefs running across the border begging for thier lives and US asylum.

Someone has decided to run our whole damned country off the cliff. And now we got missing nukes to contend with. As if the hundred and eighty Russian suitcase nukes. that have been missing since the late eighhties weren't enough.

Nope things aren't looking good.
 

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I'd believe the Chinese Cyberhack would be the more dangerous of the possibilities. An order from up high doesn't pose a threat to the USA, an clandestine coup-style move is worrisome but can be tracked down and stopped. A cyber forgery that could make us bomb the wrong target and can be pulled of by a single to handfull of hackers is the biggest threat.

Think of it as a faked USS Liberty incident. We attack an allied target with intent to kill, "hey we were following orders" but that the orders secretly came from an enemy country or group. No need for the Eagle's 'football', just hack the order and voila instant international incident with mass casualties. That's a real threat, and why the army should lay off computer networking. (Makes BSGTNS' plot too real.)
 
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I was under the impression that this incident was a bit of cyberwarfare by the Chinese, that they forged military orders on a number of fronts and everybody fell for it.


You got a link?
 
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You maybe right Screamzero............but I wouldn't give you a nickel for your chances of getting Americans off thier apathedic butts. They declare war on terror, and send our troops thousands of miles away. Leaving all our borders open and exposed to infiltraters. We have an active small arms drug war going on all along our southern border. You have whole Mexican police forces resigning, because the threats to them and thier families have been carried out without reprisal by the government. Mexican police chiefs running across the border begging for thier lives and US asylum.

Someone has decided to run our whole damned country off the cliff. And now we got missing nukes to contend with. As if the hundred and eighty Russian suitcase nukes. that have been missing since the late eighhties weren't enough.


I think it is the Bilderbergers fault , Right Computer Guy?
I think we should storm the Bohemian Grove? Split up the Minitmen send
half to the Mexicann Border and the other half to the Bohemium Grove Razz

Nope things aren't looking good.
 
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I'd label it as rumour because its an anonymous source deal. But it makes sense.
http://www.projectcamelot.net/jack_carter.html
 
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Well, CG...I hear ya. I would think some body here is doing something like:
United for a Sovereign America
http://immigrationbuzz.com/
Minute Men
http://bonner.wordpress.com/2006/04/20/minutemen-to-build-arizona-mexico-border-fence/
...but that still isn't enough.
...as for the othetr cats mullin' the cyber forgery; we do have a good anti-cyber terror group within. They've been doing a great job so far. There are a lot of things we aren't privy to, you know. Damn show's gettin' deep.
 

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Oh, yes we could be in as much danger from a rival chain of command as anything else. Cheney and Co could have pulled off a false flag nuclear attack in the United States. We don't know that they didn't plan (and still may be) on that. It's Cheney and Chertoff always yapping about how it's just a matter of time before the US gets nuked by "terrorists". Well, THEY are the terrorists, the enemy within.

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

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Same **it, different century
 
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thomaspayne wrote:
Oh, yes we could be in as much danger from a rival chain of command as anything else. Cheney and Co could have pulled off a false flag nuclear attack in the United States. We don't know that they didn't plan (and still may be) on that. It's Cheney and Chertoff always yapping about how it's just a matter of time before the US gets nuked by "terrorists". Well, THEY are the terrorists, the enemy within.

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

Marcus Tullius Cicero quotes (Ancient Roman Lawyer, Writer, Scholar, Orator and Statesman, 106 BC-43 BC)



Same **it, different century



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