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After reading about Stan Romanek's encounters I've come up with a theory about what has been going on. I had read about the links with religion, the apocalypse, and many other articles. Alien sightings have appeared multiple times in famous paintings, holy documents, and even today. It is common that most aliens are depicted with human-like body parts. How could evolution ever take place nearly the same way? Life can form from a variety of conditions. What are the chances that the conditions and elements were nearly identical? "Aliens" must be the human race evolved. How can this happen? An upcoming event called 2012.
On 12-12-2012, It is predicted that the world will be hit by eros and nuclear warfare will break out. If a huge comet hits with great nuclear force and nuclear warfare takes place, the only chance of survival are led-lined vaults. If humans remain in these vaults for hundreds or thousands of years because of the radiation above ground, their bodies will change inorder to handle their environment better. If their bodies adapt to the dark, they'll grow large eyes and pale skin along with other things. Thus, they will resemble an alien. By then, one of them must discover a way to leave the radiated planet and start life on a new one. Over time technology will advance and they will figure out how to travel in time and begin to make occurences in the past. Since they are still considered human yet have evolved greatly, they will successfully be able to communicate and interact with the humans in the past. They may even play"god" to the isralites inorder to preserve history along with themselves.
They may be the beings that decended from heaven and helped Adam and Eve populate the world without mutation or defects. They could have been depicted as angels, giants, God, Satan or Jesus. In revelation, It is said that after the apocolypse, they will start life on a new world which explains the past. It's not only the bible that may represent aliens, the same story applies to other religeons and cultures. They may be the reason why some prophecies have been fufilled. If "aliens" are really us, then the unexplainible has been explained.
Note: Be aware that I'm not very old (14 really) and I'm not very willing to put actual evidence in my theory, yet evidence does exist! I'm just too lazy to put it in. If anyone wants proof, google 2012 and stan rominek. They have a very distinct connection with eachother and my theory. Then again, I have multiple therories about life and everything around it. I'm not sure at all if any of them are true yet I hope that life is much simpler than how we perceve it. I just enjoy thinking about how to explain the many of the larger questions. Well, I hope many of you found this interesting. Thank you. 
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Welcome punk. Yes, I believe your theory is quite possible & very well articulated 
.. There are many adults in here that have the brain capacity of a goldfish at times (IMO) so personally Im not the slightest bit interested how old you are 
BTW, to a 5yr old 14 is ancient 
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Well I`m guessing that most of us have heard that aliens wouldnīt look anything like us at all or any other animal on this planet, but at the same time it doesnīt make sense if you think about it.
As far as we all know, Hydrogen is like the basic element in our universe, and a few more elements are fairly common through out the cosmos as far as we know it...again...
I`m sure there must be like atleast hundreds of unknown elements out there for us to even imagina their proper functions.
To me itīs not so difficult anymore to think that some alien beings might have similarities to us or any kind of creature on our world because we might share some basic elements on our physiology.
Too much witnesses and statements have been put on the table to maybe not decline the existence of the greys but at the same time I sometimes do think that these greys might still be humans in the future, meaning that time travel and manipulation of anything in the cosmos is possible and that we just taken the first step towards that road... |
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Well I`m guessing that most of us have heard that aliens wouldnīt look anything like us at all or any other animal on this planet, but at the same time it doesnīt make sense if you think about it.
As far as we all know, Hydrogen is like the basic element in our universe, and a few more elements are fairly common through out the cosmos as far as we know it...again...
I`m sure there must be like atleast hundreds of unknown elements out there for us to even imagina their proper functions.
To me itīs not so difficult anymore to think that some alien beings might have similarities to us or any kind of creature on our world because we might share some basic elements on our physiology.
Too much witnesses and statements have been put on the table to maybe not decline the existence of the greys but at the same time I sometimes do think that these greys might still be humans in the future, meaning that time travel and manipulation of anything in the cosmos is possible and that we just taken the first step towards that road... |
hello,
You have some good points there. but however i have a idea.
Mabye these "greys" are really us. but they travled to earth thousands of years ago and put man on here as a experiment. so they can further study how they "us" evolved. Say for example. they are 17thousand generations from you today, wouldnt you like to know how and what went on back then??
5 year old kids play with ants in a ant farm.
Mabye its just us in that ant farm. With some nudges along the way, they could be here to make a pure race....
Develope 100's of different religions and see what one finally provails.
i would openly accept any alien if come 2012 they knocked eros away from hitting earth, doesnt the bible say god will return to save us all?
At the end of the day, i understand why the goverment isnt speeking public about our friends in the sky. cause a Person is smart, People are dumb, panic and react spontaniously. It only takes one person in a mob of confused people to say its evil or its a lie. From there chao begins.
But id the whole world stood still and watched in "aww" as a space craft somehow smashed eros out of our way. The goverment would have no hesitation of letting the cats outa the bag and announcing " WE ARE NOT ALONE"
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| Hmmm if I have to give a result now I would say, Buddhism would win in the end or some sort of "buddhism" but with a new name... |
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Punkenchinada, that's a good post. Many of the older members publish worse (myself occasionally included).
One of our members uses a signature which reads "Could Greys be us from the future?"
It's entirely possible that Aliens are differently-evolved humans, or something very closely related.
According to Sci-fi author Larry Niven, we're mutated Pak, unable to complete our normal life-cycle because an herb required for it can't grow here, there's a mineral deficiency in the soil. Non-mutants were sent here as replacements a million (?) years ago and the attempt to eradicate us failed.
The non-mutated form is the ape, or Pak Breeder. The fully-matured form is the Pak Protector. That which we call old age is part of the maturing process: our joints thicken (arthritis) to provide better leverage; our skin (wrinkles and loses elasticity) becomes armor; our (teeth fall out) lips fuse to gums to form beaks ("the better to eat you with, my dear"?) and intelligence jumps off the scale...but paranoia and xenophobia come along for the ride. Without the herb's assistance, we can't make the transformation into Protectors. In his stories, only one human ever does and the results aren't good. Check out the Ringworld novels for more.
One take on the possibilities, and Niven's good reading. Quite a bit of his work was done with the assistance of Dr. Jerry Pournelle from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena.
But yes, it's plausible. One of the nice things about our universe is the possibilities are, um, universal.
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Possibly a bunch of drifting martians.
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| After reading about Stan Romanek's encounters I've come up with a theory about what has been going on. I had read about the links with religion, the apocalypse, and many other articles. Alien sightings have appeared multiple times in famous paintings, holy documents, and even today. It is common that most aliens are depicted with human-like body parts. How could evolution ever take place nearly the same way? Life can form from a variety of conditions. What are the chances that the conditions and elements were nearly identical? "Aliens" must be the human race evolved. How can this happen? An upcoming event called 2012. On 12-12-2012, It is predicted that the world will be hit by eros and nuclear warfare will break out. If a huge comet hits with great nuclear force and nuclear warfare takes place, the only chance of survival are led-lined vaults. If humans remain in these vaults for hundreds or thousands of years because of the radiation above ground, their bodies will change inorder to handle their environment better. If their bodies adapt to the dark, they'll grow large eyes and pale skin along with other things. Thus, they will resemble an alien. By then, one of them must discover a way to leave the radiated planet and start life on a new one. Over time technology will advance and they will figure out how to travel in time and begin to make occurences in the past. Since they are still considered human yet have evolved greatly, they will successfully be able to communicate and interact with the humans in the past. They may even play"god" to the isralites inorder to preserve history along with themselves. They may be the beings that decended from heaven and helped Adam and Eve populate the world without mutation or defects. They could have been depicted as angels, giants, God, Satan or Jesus. In revelation, It is said that after the apocolypse, they will start life on a new world which explains the past. It's not only the bible that may represent aliens, the same story applies to other religeons and cultures. They may be the reason why some prophecies have been fufilled. If "aliens" are really us, then the unexplainible has been explained. Note: Be aware that I'm not very old (14 really) and I'm not very willing to put actual evidence in my theory, yet evidence does exist! I'm just too lazy to put it in. If anyone wants proof, google 2012 and stan rominek. They have a very distinct connection with eachother and my theory. Then again, I have multiple therories about life and everything around it. I'm not sure at all if any of them are true yet I hope that life is much simpler than how we perceve it. I just enjoy thinking about how to explain the many of the larger questions. Well, I hope many of you found this interesting. Thank you. |
Very interesting thoughts, young one. I find that most people, even when dealing with aliens, tend to limit the type of aliens they think visit us, or are capable of visiting us. I have seen 31 different types of aliens, either on their planet, or visiting us. They are of a great variety and not all are humanoid in shape. I would ask that everyone loosen up and open up to more varieties of aliens who have come to us. There are approximately 5 different branches of the greys who come, several different branches of the whites, several different branches of the reptilians (some humanoid in oute shape with scaly skins - some able to walk on their back feet and look very similar to the crocodiles and alligators we have in our waters here on earth - yet they are able to use their front legs and "hands" in a similar fashion to humans, several different species of the crab family which live on different planets and one is space capable and have come to this earth. I could go on and on, but I think you get my point. It seems that there are vastly different types of beings with minds capable of space flight. Re: the greys interfering or hastening of the human evolution. Well, there are also the reptilians who were involved with that, as well as those I call the Ancient ones (who have very large brain cavities and are extremely advanced), and various branches of the white aliens as well. I could go on and on. However, this planet has been a laboratory for many different specieis of aliens to work their plans, plant their seeds, and hybridize themselves with humans as they are now, and as they were in the past. I also feel that some of those who visit us are indeed from our future and are hybridizing us with them so they can take the hybrids to the future and restablish the reproduction cycle to regain what they had lost over the millenia of advancement, environmental chaos, bodily changes, etc.So, my young friend, I am glad you posted your initial posting. And I am also hoping that others will widen their scope of what they know or suspect and discuss it. I personally have experience with what I am talking about of their being many varieties of alien species. I have seen the giants on a planet who are rather primitive for our standards of present day earth, but they truly enjoy what they do and have no desire to advance. I have seen and been visited (as well taken aboard) the crab like beings who have only small pincers on their front legs, but brilliant minds. They showed me how they built everything to deal with how they were shaped. Not all aliens are humanoid. So I do hope that everyone will open up to really what is out there. And I, by no means, have seen all the varieties. There is a species that is only made out of light but have what some earthlings would call a humanoid type body (but they actually look more like the taller whites ). There are insectoid beings which resemble a mixgture of what praying mantis and ants look like, and they are brilliant beings, and one of theirs is actually an embassador for peace here in our galaxy. So, you see, there is a lot more than what most people believe or even allow to exist in their minds. Open up, my young compatriot and know that the Universe (Ithe one we think is the only one - wrong) is filled with more real wonders than one can dream up. |
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Note: Be aware that I'm not very old (14 really) and I'm not very willing to put actual evidence in my theory, yet evidence does exist! I'm just too lazy to put it in. If anyone wants proof, google 2012 and stan rominek. They have a very distinct connection with eachother and my theory. Then again, I have multiple therories about life and everything around it. I'm not sure at all if any of them are true yet I hope that life is much simpler than how we perceve it. I just enjoy thinking about how to explain the many of the larger questions. Well, I hope many of you found this interesting. Thank you. [/quote]
Forgot to say, I am 65 years of age and have been going through abductions from the time I was a little child and it is still an on-going thing at my present age and there are no signs that it is going to desist. Too many things coming up for this world for the abductions to end now. There were sometimes during my life I was free of abductions, but it has started up again with a vengeance, so to speak. So, it doesn't make a difference what age you are, but just that you open up to know the truth inside of you, and as you experience it in abductions, visions, dreams, etc.
Take care of yourself, young friend. You have many more years ahead of you and many more ways of knowing the truth. That you are doing so at a young age now is tremendous. When I was your age, one just didn't talk about any of these things. I was born in 1943 and till 1958 I was being abducted. Then after 42 it has been continuous, with lots of surgeries,scars, bruises, scratches, needle marks appearing on my body overnight, and many awarenesses of what the space craft and the aliens looked like.
Peace to you in your search for your truth in all of this. |
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| Wonderful post, Siva. You go on all you like! Very interesting stuff. |
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| Siva, a question: If you know, what are some examples of religious/spiritual beliefs that these different races have, assuming any? |
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| Siva, a question: If you know, what are some examples of religious/spiritual beliefs that these different races have, assuming any? |
I know that the Crab people who have space ships are an extremely interesting and peaceful race of beings. I don't know if they have a name for their belief system (and notice I said belief system and not a religion. - I think that is an earth concept "religion"). The wonderful crab guys believe very seriously that all life is sacred and just because I was a human from earth dcidn't make a difference to them. The pilot of the ship I was on even let me sit on his pilot seat and showed me how it accomodated my body as well as it could accomodate his body. The seat was quite a wonderful invention, as it would adapt either me or him to put either of us within reach of the guidance mechanisms for the ship. I also got to ride on the crabs back so he could show me that they were not a vicious race of beings and that was mind blowing. He was with me in the Spirit for almost 2 weeks after that, and everywhere I looked there he was. I can't even begin to tell you how happy that made me feel. I miss him now, but if I think of him, he appears in front of me, or I feel his spiritual presence. Yes, this is true. I felt as if we had bonded in spirit durng that and subsequent exeriences on the ship. The ship was also a very quiet and subdued purplish pink and was very soothing. The inner walls of the ship were very smooth and shiny, almost as if it was precast out of a solid piece. I felt they believed that all creation was one and that they had no need to conquer anyone only to protect themselves and those they knew about. So, it was quite a mind blowingexperience for sure, but an incredibly peaceful experience. I felt I had learned from them to be more tolerant of those who were wishing to harm me or them. Also, I found that most, if not all of those I had seen on other planets in their own environment (these were not necessrily the ones who abduct me frequently - that seems to be a whole other ball game). I haven't found that the most of the greys (even some of them are rebelling against their other brothers of that species - so they are finding a different believe system which fits in with we are all one people), the reptilians (except for a few of the humanoid shaped ones with scaly-flaky skin who are working with us to stop the chaos that is to come soon), and all of the larger bronze qourd shaped headed ones don't really give a hoot about anyone but themselves and their own agenda. So, I would say they have no "spiritual ideas or beliefs", but they do have a very materialistic "it's all mine and I take what I want" even to the point of saying that they created us so they can do what they want with us. Well, that is not true that they can do what they want with us - that is the big lie meant to cower us and make us believe that we are their "children" and that makes them God over us. Such BS, my friends. Don't believe whatthey say. Some of them mayhave been instrumental in the evolution of mankind from way back in history, but they do not own us and we are not theirs to do with as they please. Who of us asked to be altered in our evolution? None of us. That is the truth. As I have said in other postings on Black Vault these aliens who don't give a damn, are the ones who use the most mind control over their captives. Others of the good guy type don't use it to the same extent as the bad guys, and quite often they will impart to their abductees some of the future events to come up - and not all of the ones who abduct humans and use the future events scenarious are the good guys, so don't let the future events scenarios fool you. You must use your discrimination when you have dreams, visions, etc., and learn how to sift the truth out of all that you experience. And we can do it as I know from personal experience and from what my friend it another country has done. I will follow this up with the name of the crab people since I have put that information in a word file on my computer, so I will post it shortly. Siva |
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[I will follow this up with the name of the crab people since I have put that information in a word file on my computer, so I will post it shortly. Siva[/quote]
The crab people are called Trellians and their world is a watery type of planet with enough land to build their dwellings and achieve space flight. I did not get to see what these looked like. These are some of the nicest and most peaceful beings I have ever seen. The pilot of the ship is standing right behind me as I write this. He tends to put his right front leg over my right shoulder as a human would with a friend. As I said in my previous post, the pilot stayed with me for about 2 weeks and I saw him most of that time. And, no, I am not crazy. If Earth East Indian sages can appear at other places and perform physical movements while there, and they are still in their body in India (this is called bi-location - or in some cases, multi-location), why can't the Trellians do the same. In writing this I am going well beyond what most people either don't know about or won't accept, but that is to be expected. Gratefully, I am able to do it as well, that is how I can see aliens on other planets. I was there on the Trellians' planet physically and could feel the seat adjust, the carapace of the Trellian pilot as well as its texture, and feel the piloting mechanisms on his ship. I think I have found around 20-30 or so of the aliens and their planets. I was looking at my record of them I have on a flash drive, and there were the giants who are 14 feet tall who are very comfortable living as they are and have no need to become industrialized. There were also the insectoid people, and many other different aliens. And, again, there is no need for any alien to be humanoid in shape, even though some are. I don't think God intended for all sentient beings to be humanoid in shape. Since sentient beings can think how to use their bodies and wish to make mechanical equipment, and have the desire to do it, they can adjust it to their body needs without any problem. And they normally don't know anything about another alien's body workings unless they have traveled by space ship or by bi-location (and a number of the alien beings do know how to do that). How egotistical of humans to think that all aliens (and I don't even like that word but it is expedient - probably should always use "beings") must be humanoid in shape. We only have to look at the multitudinous species that exist on this world to know that any type of body is possible in the Universe (and there is more than this Universe - in truth, REALITY is filled with quite a few Universes. I have seen some and visited them. There is a race of beings (the light beings who are in our vicinity but we can't see them because they are in their mother ship above our planet but in another parallel Universe and in another dimension. They don't pop up visually for most people to see, but they can take you to their parallel Universe and dimension. They are also one of the most loving, blissful, peace filled beings. Their ship stays with our planet in preparation for the chaos that is to come. Their mother ship also carries smaller ships which do their assignments over our planet in keeping peace as much as possible. I have had many wonderful experiences with these beings. They are literally not like us with bones and skin. They are literally light beings. Their entire being is made up of light (what is called in India God's Eternal Ocean of energy light) That Indian belief is backed up by an experiment scientists did with a thin slice of steel put on an elctron miscroscope. The scientists found out that nothing is solid, even the atoms, electrons, etc. of the slice of steel was made up of round like balls of that energy and the balls of light were surrounded by an "envelope" of the same type of energy. And, so, are the light beings made. Their outer form is the "envelope" of light for the light that is the substance of their being. Not quite what the scientists are used to, huh? But, I have touched "hands" with a light being and there was an instantaneous awareness that we were not different, that we were made up of the same substance. That was one of the most incredible experience of my life, and one of the most peaceful. They are called Saurians. I have visited their mother ship and one of their smaller ship. The ships were simply amazing. The mother ship is miles in circumference. I have copywrited all of this information, so, if you use this information in sharing with others, please be respectful and don't attach your name as the originator of this information. I have also seen the tall insectoid ant/praying mantis type when they had a meeting in a "picnic" type surrounding as they were sitting under trees in a verdant hillside. There were other aliens there as this was a meeting of The Peace Ambassadors of our Galaxy where they were sharing how their sector was doing. They are called the Andorrians. (I don't think that is actually their real name, but I don't think we humans can pronounce their real name - and the same goes for any being I talk about here. But, for the sake of ease, I was given these names by them so that I would have a reference point. They were with another race of beings called the Rheinopods, who look like a humanoid shape of a Rhino, with horns on it's head, but there were far more than one horn as his head was covered with horns all over. He was also extremely peaceful. I thought when I saw them and other species as well at the "picnic" that humans would be absolutely terrified from their outward appearances. But, I wasn't afraid at all. They were there to report to each other on how well peace had gained a strong hold or lost some ground in their parts of this galaxy. Unfortunately, most of them had sad news to report - peace was difficult to obtain and maintain in their sectors. So, it looks like Earth is not the only place that continual wars happen. Interestingly I could see into their personalities and was so happy to know them all. They welcomed me completely and I shared the "picnic" meal with them. There was another species there that resembed, only slightly, a giraffe, but was only about 6 feet tall. The reason this being looked like a giraffe from Earth was that its neck was long for its trunk. It had two arms, two legs, and they were thicker than giraffe legs on Earth. Also, it was able to grasp its food with its arms (which were not totally humanoid in shape and function - it was as if its arms ended in a two hooves that were more fleshy than bone-like. These two "hooves" were able to grasp and hold its meal. Its body was more stocky and short than Earth's giraffe's. But, the overall impression (of course I had seen giraffes on Earth) that it gave off that similarity to me. Well, that is enough for some of the different types of beings. I will hold the rest close to my chest. So you see, anyone who is reading this, our egotistical concept that all aliens should be humanoid in shape is a bunch of baloney. And, of course, some of the beings are humanoid in shape, but many are not. Peace to you all. |
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Ok seriously you have lost it Siva.
Do you really expect anyone here to believe anything you have said in this site?
Calling people "young one", talking about peace and truths and aliens that share with you their everyday lives like please give it a rest!
Weīve had a few people thinking they have seen worlds and what not but you and some other 2-3 people take the lead on this.
So you may have a nice way of putting your stories together so that most of us would just carry on without any doubts but not me.
I can come up with similar if not better stories than this.
I donīt know what happened to you earlier but even if you have been abducted I doubt that what most of what you say is true because no one can remember such things perfectly unless they either lie or just suffer from a mental disorder like socialphobia.
I`m sorry but thatīs the truth and only truth in anything you have said about truths... |
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The truth is hidden so well, itīs right infront of you... |
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