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Jaack
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 Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: For all you PRO TERRORIST types watch Nat. Geo. |
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For all you PRO TERRORIST types watch Nat. Geo.
"Inside sodam's Reign of Terror"
Tonight at 8 EST and 10 EST
Yeah the main reason for the war your D'Rat pals voted for are illustrated.
They have actual torture not hazing etc.... |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: For all you PRO TERRORIST types watch Nat. Geo. |
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| Jaack wrote: |
They have actual torture not hazing etc.... |
Heya, here's more torture done in Irag. After the US-tool, aka Saddam, was deposed.
Oh wait, is that just hazing?
Saddam was sure a bad mofo.
I wonder why the US supported him for years, during his most murderous times...
Poor Iraq. Saddam defeated only to be replaced by worse chaos followed by imposed rule.
How many years later? How many million dead Iraqis? How many homeless?
WITHOUT AN INVITATION.
Keep pretending it was worthwhile.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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who says besides you the pics actually mean what you are trying to convey?
And who says I care? |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Jaack wrote: |
who says besides you the pics actually mean what you are trying to convey?
And who says I care? |
Keep pretending... |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Jaack wrote: |
who says besides you the pics actually mean what you are trying to convey?
And who says I care? |
Keep pretending... |
I'm not. You and your ilk are the pretenders, so haaaaaaaaaaaaaa. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Screw with best and you get screwed with the rest. Why did not you go to class handwipe? Is it natural for a spy to favor one sided stories? handwipe? |
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You'd have to be a fool to deny Saddam was a power-crazy evil piece of work and his regime brutal. Is that justification to invade the country? There were no solid links to terrorism, there were no weapons of mass destruction, so you're left with a predictably chaotic and ill-conceived attempt at regime change. Does the West have the right to do this? In hindsight it's obvious that war is not an answer to end suffering, maybe that's why in most cases despots are left to ruin their countries, such as Sudan, Zimbabwe or North Korea, because unlike Iraq there's no geopolitical advantage for the West to resort to invading these places.
Wars like Iraq or Afgahnistan have little if nothing to do with fighting for liberty and justice in the world, rather its all geopolitics.
And being anti-war has nothing to do with being pro-terrorist. As if. |
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You'd have to be a fool to deny Saddam was a power-crazy evil piece of work and his regime brutal. Is that justification to invade the country? There were no solid links to terrorism, there were no weapons of mass destruction, so you're left with a predictably chaotic and ill-conceived attempt at regime change. Does the West have the right to do this? In hindsight it's obvious that war is not an answer to end suffering, maybe that's why in most cases despots are left to ruin their countries, such as Sudan, Zimbabwe or North Korea, because unlike Iraq there's no geopolitical advantage for the West to resort to invading these places.
Wars like Iraq or Afgahnistan have little if nothing to do with fighting for liberty and justice in the world, rather its all geopolitics.
And being anti-war has nothing to do with being pro-terrorist. As if. |
Who are you to question our leaders?
The Jews can do what they like! Saddam didn't want to play ball with them so they got rid of him using their attack-dogs and favourite fall-guys - the Yanks.
Because the recalcitrant despot (SH) wouldn't aquiesse to 'Israeli' hegemony they arranged for the slaughter of millions of his people, then starved and enslaved the rest.
Now they are target practise for ZOGbots from the USA.
The methods of turture used by the Yanks shown in the pictures supplied are ones which were deemed not too shocking for distribution. What really happened and is continuing to happen (under 'Israeli' supervision) is not as pleasant. Anyone know about the methods the 'inquisition' used? Well they were about on a par with present day Yanks with the killing, torturing and maiming.
Come on you stupid Yanks! Go and attack Iran. The more brainwashed fools who return in body bags the safer the planet is.
Defend your own nations from attack instead of attacking israel's current enemies. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Re: For all you PRO TERRORIST types watch Nat. Geo. |
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| Jaack wrote: |
For all you PRO TERRORIST types watch Nat. Geo.
"Inside sodam's Reign of Terror"
Tonight at 8 EST and 10 EST
Yeah the main reason for the war your D'Rat pals voted for are illustrated.
They have actual torture not hazing etc.... |
Jaack you're a simpleton. |
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Nope.
And duh vaughn you are correct somewhat. No one ever said sadam was involved in 911.
We owned Iraq after Gulf War 1. It's called a cease fire. During clintoris' reign he let sadam get away with murder. German, France, Russia the UN et. al. get away with corrupting the food for oil program.
sadam didn't follow the cease fire agreement we had every right to re-invade iraq. |
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| Yes you are Jaack. Just how many "PRO TERRORISTS" do you think we have on the boards here? |
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| Virginia Jaacko wrote: |
Nope.
And duh vaughn you are correct somewhat. No one ever said sadam was involved in 911.
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Yeah .... "nobody". I guess Bush is a real "nobody" then.
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Bush stands by al Qaeda, Saddam link
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Tuesday, June 15, 2004 Posted: 6:06 PM EDT (2206 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush repeated his administration's claim that Iraq was in league with al Qaeda under Saddam Hussein's rule, saying Tuesday that fugitive Islamic militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi ties Saddam to the terrorist network.
"Zarqawi's the best evidence of a connection to al Qaeda affiliates and al Qaeda," Bush told reporters at the White House. "He's the person who's still killing."
U.S. intelligence officials have said al Qaeda had some links to Iraq dating back to the early 1990s, but the nature and extent of those contacts is a matter of dispute.
Critics have accused the president and other administration officials of falsely inflating the links between Iraq and al Qaeda in the months before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Monday in Florida, raised eyebrows by reasserting claims that Saddam "had long-established ties with al Qaeda."
Bush said Tuesday that Saddam also had ties to Palestinian militant groups and was making payments to the families of suicide bombers in Israel.
"We did the absolute right thing in removing him from power, and the world is better off with him not in power," he said.
Bush has tried to portray the war in Iraq as the "central front" in the war on terrorism that began with al Qaeda's September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington.
In September, after Cheney asserted that Iraq had been "the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11," Bush acknowledged there was no evidence that Saddam's government was connected to those attacks.
U.S. officials blame Zarqawi for a series of attacks on U.S. forces, Iraqi civilians and others since the American-led invasion of Iraq, including the April beheading of American businessman Nicholas Berg and the August 2003 bombing of U.N. headquarters in Baghdad.
Before the invasion, U.S. intelligence reports suggested Zarqawi had his leg amputated in a Baghdad hospital after being wounded fighting American forces in Afghanistan. The allegation was part of Secretary of State Colin Powell's presentation to the U.N. Security Council in February 2003, laying out the U.S. case for war.
But in April, a senior U.S. official said that report had been called into question: Zarqawi was still thought to have received medical treatment in Baghdad, but reports that he had his leg amputated appeared to have been incorrect, a U.S. official said.
Earlier this year, U.S. officials touted what they said was an intercepted letter from Zarqawi to al Qaeda leaders seeking their help in provoking a civil war in Iraq, where the U.S.-led occupation authority is scheduled to hand over power to an interim Iraqi government at month's end.
The principal reason cited for the coalition invasion was that Iraq was violating U.N. resolutions requiring it to give up chemical and biological weapons, long-range missiles and efforts to build a nuclear bomb. The U.N. did not give a final vote to approve the war but the U.S. pointed to previous resolutions that called for "serious consequences" if Iraq did not disarm.
Since then, inspectors have turned up some evidence of undeclared weapons research and two chemical artillery shells, but none of the stockpiles that Iraq was accused of maintaining.
A total of 833 U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion -- more than 500 of them in guerrilla attacks since Bush's May 1, 2003, declaration that "major combat" was over.
Bush acknowledged that creating a free society in Iraq is "hard work."
"But we'll get there," he said. "And we'll get there because people want to be free. That's why we'll get there. People long to live in freedom."
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We owned Iraq after Gulf War 1. It's called a cease fire. sadam didn't follow the cease fire agreement we had every right to re-invade iraq. |
They didn't violate any "cease fire". They were under UN orders to allow UN Weapons Inspectors to look for WMDs. They were complying to those orders when Bush launched his illegal invasion against them. The UN Weapons Inspectors then had to be pulled out for their own safety without completing the job. |
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Mael, who am I indeed? What was I thinking of...
Jaack, I don't think I suggested anywhere that Saddam was involved in 9/11...nope definitely not. However, links to terrorism was definitely mooted as one reason for invasion in the run-up to the war.
Yep, Saddam got away with all his usual crap during Clinton's reign but then plenty of other crap has taken place elsewhere during Bush's reign. It's not about who's in charge, administrations only act if its geoploitically prudent to do so. Like I said before, the ongoing conflicts are not about liberty and justice or freeing repressed peoples. That was my point in reference to the topic. |
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| Yes you are Jaack. Just how many "PRO TERRORISTS" do you think we have on the boards here? |
You read this section and figure it out. |
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jacckkoffiieee is a simpleton... 
i see he wants us to keep pumping money into that area..knowing damn well it goes into the pockets of our enemies..
he's secretly a sexually frustrated closeted terrorist lover.. |
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